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At the request of the Netherlands, the German police arrested two men from Arnhem . According to Justice , the two have to travel to Syria . The men were mid-August in the German Kleve held in a car full of combat clothing , cash, new iPhones and SIM cards .older brother

Documents from justice , in the hands of Nieuwsuur , it appears that at least one of the men has an older brother , who had previously traveled to Syria . Also, the second suspect , say residents , would an older brother in Syria . The first person arrested the 26 -year-old Mohamed el A. from the Arnhem Presikhaaf district. According to a report by the secret service AIVD he would have had with his older brother in Syria . Contact He also wanted to take his minor half-brother to Syria . But police intervened and placed the boy under the supervision of the child .bewildered

The second man is arrested the 21 -year-old Hakim B. from Malburgen district of Arnhem was a volunteer member of the Youth Supervision Team in Arnhem , and was an avid kickboxer . Owner Fred Royer Kickboxing Arnhem is stunned by the arrest of his pupil. " If there is someone who I would not expect this, then that Hakim ," said Royer tonight Nieuwsuur .worrisome

Many Dutch young people who have left Syria for jihad , come from The Hague. Edwin Bakker , professor of terrorism at the University of Leiden , find it worrisome that now apparently boys from Arnhem to leave the war zone .

The municipality of Arnhem is a national problem , which has a number of communes. " It is our explicit attention . We talk about it with other municipalities , the Ministry , the prosecution and the police signals to pick up " as soon as possible according to a spokeswoman . " We do it with our network partners committed to the signals to absorb and to transfer . " in imagegaining experience

Experts warn that young people who participate in the struggle in Syria radicalized to return in the Netherlands , with all its consequences . The AIVD warned for years about the dangers of jihadists , who are gaining experience in conflicts around the world .combat Clothing

Justice documents in the possession of a third Nieuwsuur Report Arnhem raided a house in a cellar where a backpack with combat clothing was found . " Apparently intended for a third uitreizende person " , as it reads .statement

In late November last year in Rotterdam three men arrested , according Justice also were planning to travel for jihad. Away to Syria The main suspect , a 24 - year-old man of Iraqi descent , considered to commit . An attack in Belgium Next Wednesday is doing the right judgment in this case .

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Syriëgangers after returning time being not prosecuted

By: Janny Green - 10/19/13, 08:19

Returned Syriëgangers are still not prosecuted in the Netherlands. They come with the story she gave humanitarian aid and are traumatized. They are assisted by social workers. Some have a duty to report.

According to various sources in Dutch Muslim communities also Belgian returned travelers choose the 'Netherlands-route, because of the milder approach.

Similarly, the Belgian convert Jejoen Bontinck. According to the Belgian broadcaster VRT is Bontinck Friday in Belgium arrested after spending a week in the Netherlands. He has not traveled straight to Belgium, he told the VRT, because he was to be arrested. Afraid On the advice of his father Dimitri, who also told the Dutch television about his futile quest for Jejoen in Syria , he eventually went to Belgium.

There are all returned Syriëreizigers arrested. Some because of criminal activities in war zones. They suspected Others because they were carrying Sharia4Belgium, the organization that would actively recruit for jihad.

No announcements individualsThe AIVD would have been Bontincks stay in the Netherlands informed. The service will not say anything about it. 'In individual cases we do not communicate, "says a spokeswoman. She confirms that there Syriëgangers are back in the Netherlands, but not the numbers. "We have a view of the back travelers. This is not confined to our borders. "

The stories about the humanitarian work and trauma, recognize the AIVD. "We ask the question whether it is always right. It may also be that a smoke screen is increased. "

25 to 30 returned SyriëgangersAccording to the sources of the Volkskrant there are now about 25 to 30 Syriëgangers returned to the Netherlands. They have been spotted in The Hague and Delft (small groups) and individuals in Zeist, Tilburg, Eindhoven, Arnhem.

In March, the National Coordinator for Counterterrorism and Security (NCTV) raised the terrorism threat level from limited to substantial. The coordinator warned especially when returning jihadis, who bring their expertise, ideological fervor and experience a security breach.

The Delft Labour councilor says Abdel Maanaoui certainly not all young people with experiences in Syria are a danger to society. He has contact with some of them. "We must not lock when not needed," he says about the repressive Belgian approach. "There are guys left who really have only given help. Others have struggled, but came back there that the situation is much more complicated than they had expected. That there is not an enemy: Assad. But they also had to fight. Much more parties, against other Muslims, There are also back that are dangerous, which propagate jihad and want to destroy the West. To be followed by the AIVD. "

Also terrorism expert Edwin Bakker argues for individual counseling. He knows that more young people want to return, but do not dare knock at the Dutch consulate in Turkey to ask if their passports withheld. Travel documents "The politics leaves little room for help and a tailored approach," he says. Baker sees the parliamentary questions for itself: 'Netherlands let terrorists return with emergency passport. " He says that Belgium still has further polarized. "Not surprisingly, Belgian Syriëgangers sit here."

Doubt by phoneParents of Syriëgangers tell increasing doubt be reflected in the telephone conversations with their children about their mission. "Many do not see it sit," says a source. "They can not find their niche there, but do not dare to return. They do not know what awaits them here. Maybe they are still prosecuted at a later stage. "

Baker warns that it may be that the jihad problem has subsided. Not drawn from the fact that young people return, the conclusion On the contrary.

"The group of potential travelers jihad is getting bigger and more professional. Recently, in Germany and the Netherlands jihad ¬ travelers arrested who are not from Delft and The Hague.

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