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03-19-2013, 10:58 PM

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Dixiecrats....how many of em turned Republicans? Dixiecrat list : Orval Fabus Benjamin Travis Laney John Stennis James Eastland Allen Ellender Russell Long John Sparkman John McClellan Richard Russell Herman Talmadge George Wallace Lester Maddox John Rarick Robert Byrd Al Gore, Sr. Bull Connor Strom Thurmon Jesse Helms Mills Godwin I will give you a hint... .................................................. ............. The MYTH or LIB lie(?) about how the Dixiecrats were conservatives and became members of the Republican Party........forever linking the GOP as the party of hate, racism....anti-civil rights. So, if ONLY 3 (that I have found) Dixiecrats jumped to the GOP.....and the rest were DEMs 4 LIFE.......exactly when did the Left begin believing All Americans were equal? As opposed to their old motto(?) of Equal but separate? __________________ The idiot doubled down on the lie!

03-19-2013, 11:05 PM

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Re: Dixiecrats....how many of em turned Republicans? Quote: ***It was Nathan Bedford Forrest, a Democrat, who founded the Ku Klux Klan. ***Woodrow Wilson segregated Federal Buildings and jobs after 50 years of integration under largely Republican administrations. ***It was the Democrat Party in the South that instituted Jim Crow Laws. ***It was the Democrat Party in the South that instituted "separate but equal". ***It was the Democrat Party in the South that supported the Ku Klux Klan. ***It was George Wallace and the Democrat Party in the South that said "Segregation Forever". ***It was Orval Faubus and the Democrat Party that wanted the Arkansas National Guard to enforce segregation, and Dwight Eisenhower, a Republican President, that sent the 101st Airborne to integrate the schools. ***It was Bull Connor, a member of the Democrat National Committee, who turned the hoses on the marchers in Birmingham, and it was the Republicans who made up the majority that passed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, over the filibuster of such Democrat paragons as William Fulbright and Al Gore Sr. - and Grand Kleagle Byrd. (And no, the Dixiecrats didn't join the Republican Party - most of them remained Democrats.) ***It was the Democrats who kept Grand Kleagle Byrd in the party. ***It was Democrats who called General Colin Powell a "house nigger". ***It was Democrats who called Condi Rice - who grew up with and knew the little girls in Birmingham who were blown up, by Democrats - an "Aunt Jemima" and ran cartoons of her with fat lips doing Hattie McDaniel riffs. ***It was Democrats, or at least Obama supporters, who called Stacy Dash a hundred different racist names for daring to leave the Democrat plantaion. (sic) ***It's the Democrats who hold annual dinners honoring Andrew Jackson, who owned slaves and who orchestrated the Removal, the Trail of Tears, the near genocide of several of the Indian Nations. __________________ The idiot doubled down on the lie!

03-19-2013, 11:16 PM

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Re: Dixiecrats....how many of em turned Republicans? Quote: *There is no reference to the number of Democratic Party platforms supporting slavery. *There were six from 1840 through 1860. *There is no reference to the number of Democratic presidents who owned slaves. *There were seven from 1800 through 1861 *There is no reference to the number of Democratic Party platforms that either supported segregation outright or were silent on the subject. There were 20, from 1868 through 1948. *There is no reference to "Jim Crow" as in "Jim Crow laws," nor is there reference to the role Democrats played in creating them. These were the post-Civil War laws passed enthusiastically by Democrats in that pesky 52-year part of the DNC's missing years. These laws segregated public schools, public transportation, restaurants, rest rooms and public places in general (everything from water coolers to beaches). The reason Rosa Parks became famous is that she sat in the "whites only" front section of a bus, the "whites only" designation the direct result of Democrats. *There is no reference to the formation of the Ku Klux Klan, which, according to Columbia University historian Eric Foner, became "a military force serving the interests of the Democratic Party." Nor is there reference to University of North Carolina historian Allen Trelease's description of the Klan as the "terrorist arm of the Democratic Party." *There is no reference to the fact Democrats opposed the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments to the Constitution. The 13th banned slavery. The 14th effectively overturned the infamous 1857 Dred Scott decision (made by Democratic pro-slavery Supreme Court justices) by guaranteeing due process and equal protection to former slaves. The 15th gave black Americans the right to vote. *There is no reference to the fact that Democrats opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1866. It was passed by the Republican Congress over the veto of President Andrew Johnson, who had been a Democrat before joining Lincoln's ticket in 1864. The law was designed to provide blacks with the right to own private property, sign contracts, sue and serve as witnesses in a legal proceeding. *There is no reference to the Democrats' opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1875. It was passed by a Republican Congress and signed into law by President Ulysses Grant. The law prohibited racial discrimination in public places and public accommodations. *There is no reference to the Democrats' 1904 platform, which devotes a section to "Sectional and Racial Agitation," claiming the GOP's protests against segregation and the denial of voting rights to blacks sought to "revive the dead and hateful race and sectional animosities in any part of our common country," which in turn "means confusion, distraction of business, and the reopening of wounds now happily healed." *There is no reference to four Democratic platforms, 1908-20, that are silent on blacks, segregation, lynching and voting rights as racial problems in the country mount. By contrast the GOP platforms of those years specifically address "Rights of the Negro" (1908), oppose lynching (in 1912, 1920, 1924, 1928) and, as the New Deal kicks in, speak out about the dangers of making blacks "wards of the state." *There is no reference to the Democratic Convention of 1924, known to history as the "Klanbake." The 103-ballot convention was held in Madison Square Garden. Hundreds of delegates were members of the Ku Klux Klan, the Klan so powerful that a plank condemning Klan violence was defeated outright. To celebrate, the Klan staged a rally with 10,000 hooded Klansmen in a field in New Jersey directly across the Hudson from the site of the convention. Attended by hundreds of cheering convention delegates, the rally featured burning crosses and calls for violence against African-Americans and Catholics. *There is no reference to the fact that it was Democrats who segregated the federal government, at the direction of President Woodrow Wilson upon taking office in 1913. There \is a reference to the fact that President Harry Truman integrated the military after World War II. *There is reference to the fact that Democrats created the Federal Reserve Board, passed labor and child welfare laws, and created Social Security with Wilson's New Freedom and FDR's New Deal. There is no mention that these programs were created as the result of an agreement to ignore segregation and the lynching of blacks. Neither is there a reference to the thousands of local officials, state legislators, state governors, U.S. congressmen and U.S. senators who were elected as supporters of slavery and then segregation between 1800 and 1965. Nor is there reference to the deal with the devil that left segregation and lynching as a way of life in return for election support for three post-Civil War Democratic presidents, Grover Cleveland, Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt. *There is no reference that three-fourths of the opposition to the 1964 Civil Rights Bill in the U.S. House came from Democrats, or that 80% of the "nay" vote in the Senate came from Democrats. Certainly there is no reference to the fact that the opposition included future Democratic Senate leader Robert Byrd of West Virginia (a former Klan member) and Tennessee Senator Albert Gore Sr., father of Vice President Al Gore. Last but certainly not least, there is no reference to the fact that Birmingham, Ala., Public Safety Commissioner Bull Connor, who infamously unleashed dogs and fire hoses on civil rights protestors, was in fact--yes indeed--a member of both the Democratic National Committee and the Ku Klux Klan. __________________ The idiot doubled down on the lie!

03-19-2013, 11:26 PM

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Re: Dixiecrats....how many of em turned Republicans? .................................................. .... __________________ The idiot doubled down on the lie!

03-19-2013, 11:55 PM

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Re: Dixiecrats....how many of em turned Republicans? Can some kindly mod please move this to the politics subforum since the OP wasn't bright enough to post it in the correct forum? Thanks.

03-20-2013, 12:06 AM

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Re: Dixiecrats....how many of em turned Republicans? Yes, Democrats of old were racists. They got phased out of the party as the years went along and the Democrats became the party that embraced tolerance (moreso, anyway). Then the people in those formerly Democratic states began electing Republicans instead. Del chooses to ignore this, though, out of choice or incredibly stupidity. It hasn't occurred to him that it was the South that was intolerant, and now they largely vote Republican. The North was more tolerant, and now they largely vote Democrat. And why is there the emphasized word? When in doubt, bold the single least important word in a thought? __________________ The TP fiscal conservative Republicans are our nation's only hope.

03-20-2013, 12:55 AM

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Re: Dixiecrats....how many of em turned Republicans? Quote: Originally Posted by TheFreakKingdom Yes, Democrats of old were racists. They got phased out of the party as the years went along and the Democrats became the party that embraced tolerance (moreso, anyway). Then the people in those formerly Democratic states began electing Republicans instead. Yeah. Try and do some research. Look at the "NEW" Democrat Party. You have the same crew...different names. Try and spin it all you want. The stories are there. Quote: Originally Posted by TFK Del chooses to ignore this, though, out of choice or incredibly stupidity. It hasn't occurred to him that it was the South that was intolerant, and now they largely vote Republican. The North was more tolerant, and now they largely vote Democrat. *A Minnesota-based publishing house has dropped one of its authors for calling a black conservative woman an “Aunt Tom” and “ignorant c–t” on Twitter. *Black conservative politicians, like Dash, are often the target of racial slurs. Prominent conservatives such as Justice Clarence Thomas and Condoleezza Rice have endured this scorn for years. Mia Love is the latest black conservative to be targeted using vile, racial slurs. There is no justification for these politically motivated slurs and the language is indefensible. A black American should be able to choose to identify with conservative ideology without being called a "house n*gger", "Uncle Tom" or sell-out. *AFP hired Clint Tarver, a black hot dog vendor, to provide food for their participants inside their tent set up outside of the state capitol building. Despite the peaceful nature of AFP’s counter-protest, several union members cut down their large tent with knives and box cutters. Mr. Tarver was inside the tent when it collapsed and approximately $400 worth of his hot dog stand equipment was damaged. The union protesters who cut the tent down further damaged Mr. Tarver’s remaining hot dog stand equipment while hurling racial epithets at him, calling him an “Uncle Tom” and a “n*****.” *If you’re black and you committed the blasphemous sin of not voting for “our Lord and Savior” Barack Obama, then, according to black liberals, you are a self-loathing, Oreo, Uncle Tom, skin-bleaching, house n***** sell-out. Vitriolic racist rhetoric is okay as long as it is directed towards black conservatives. * Quote: Originally Posted by TFK And why is there the emphasized word? When in doubt, bold the single least important word in a thought? Why was "there" emphasized? Gee, let me look at the first word of each * (point of fact)....oh wait, "THERE" is found....No wait, the LIBs want to suggest it was the least important word....must be a conspiracy, right TFK.... __________________ The idiot doubled down on the lie! Last edited by DEL061; 03-20-2013 at 12:57 AM . Reason: NOTE: Did not emphasize any word for fear of confusing TFK....AGAIN!

03-20-2013, 09:41 AM

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Re: Dixiecrats....how many of em turned Republicans? Quote: Originally Posted by DEL061 Dixiecrat list : Orval Fabus Benjamin Travis Laney John Stennis James Eastland Allen Ellender Russell Long John Sparkman John McClellan Richard Russell Herman Talmadge George Wallace Lester Maddox John Rarick Robert Byrd Al Gore, Sr. Bull Connor Strom Thurmon Jesse Helms Mills Godwin I will give you a hint... .................................................. ............. The MYTH or LIB lie(?) about how the Dixiecrats were conservatives and became members of the Republican Party........forever linking the GOP as the party of hate, racism....anti-civil rights. So, if ONLY 3 (that I have found) Dixiecrats jumped to the GOP.....and the rest were DEMs 4 LIFE.......exactly when did the Left begin believing All Americans were equal? As opposed to their old motto(?) of Equal but separate? Once again DEL, you place too much emphasis on the "(R)" and "(D)". It's a simple matter of conservative , versus liberal . Case closed. OM __________________ “Honor means that a man is not exceptional; fame, that he is. Fame is something which must be won; honor, only something which must not be lost.” -Arthur Schopenhauer

03-20-2013, 09:52 AM

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Re: Dixiecrats....how many of em turned Republicans? Quote: Originally Posted by OmegaMan Once again DEL, you place too much emphasis on the "(R)" and "(D)". It's a simple matter of conservative , versus liberal .Case closed. OM Hmm...So, I take it you believe the myth/lie that the Democrats that were racist to the core.......the Dixiecrats.....all became today's GOP? That the Racist to the CORE (no pun intended for it to rhyme with little Global Warming Gore's and his father) Dixicrats were from early in the history of the US....and the modern day DEMs are not the Dixiecrats of old.......as in how far back did you suggest.....1860's? Yeah, it wasn't those with the BIG "D" behind their name that tried to shoot down the CRA 1965.......it wasn't the those with the "R" behind their name(S) that successfully passed it....oh that's right...history tells us it was LBJ....the LIBs that pushed that threw...... Case Closed indeed my friend. Carry on with the myth.........lie....what ever you have to tell yourself. __________________ The idiot doubled down on the lie!

03-20-2013, 10:16 AM

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Re: Dixiecrats....how many of em turned Republicans? Quote: Originally Posted by DEL061 Hmm...So, I take it you believe the myth/lie that the Democrats that were racist to the core.......the Dixiecrats.....all became today's GOP? That the Racist to the CORE (no pun intended for it to rhyme with little Global Warming Gore's and his father) Dixicrats were from early in the history of the US....and the modern day DEMs are not the Dixiecrats of old.......as in how far back did you suggest.....1860's? Yeah, it wasn't those with the BIG "D" behind their name that tried to shoot down the CRA 1965.......it wasn't the those with the "R" behind their name(S) that successfully passed it....oh that's right...history tells us it was LBJ....the LIBs that pushed that threw...... Case Closed indeed my friend. Carry on with the myth.........lie....what ever you have to tell yourself. Again DEL (pardon the repetition), you are placing too much emphasis on "(R)" and "(D)". Try simply contemplating conservative and liberal instead. OM __________________ “Honor means that a man is not exceptional; fame, that he is. Fame is something which must be won; honor, only something which must not be lost.” -Arthur Schopenhauer

03-20-2013, 10:19 AM

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Re: Dixiecrats....how many of em turned Republicans? Quote: Originally Posted by TheFreakKingdom Then the people in those formerly Democratic states began electing Republicans instead. Meaning of course, they are a conservative base. OM __________________ “Honor means that a man is not exceptional; fame, that he is. Fame is something which must be won; honor, only something which must not be lost.” -Arthur Schopenhauer

03-20-2013, 12:03 PM

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Re: Dixiecrats....how many of em turned Republicans? Quote: Originally Posted by DEL061 Dixiecrat list : Orval Fabus Benjamin Travis Laney John Stennis James Eastland Allen Ellender Russell Long John Sparkman John McClellan Richard Russell Herman Talmadge George Wallace Lester Maddox John Rarick Robert Byrd Al Gore, Sr. Bull Connor Strom Thurmon Jesse Helms Mills Godwin Sometimes a faction in a political party spins off and is given a name. Most recently a conservative faction formed the Tea Party. In 1948, it was the States' Rights Democrat Party, commonly called the Dixiecrats. They were politicians from the South who left the Democratic Party because of a civil rights plank in the Democrats' platform. The Dixiecrats ran Strom Thurmond as their candidate for president in 1948 against Harry Truman (Democrat) and Tom Dewey (Republican). Truman and Dewey both received 40+% of the vote. Thurmond carried only four states, all in the Deep South, and received 2.4% of the popular vote. The Dixiecrats folded their tent and many of the Southern conservative politicians returned to the Democratic Party. Democratic President Lyndon Baines Johnson pushed for passage of the Civil Rights Act in 1964, which caused conservative Southern Democrats to support Senator Barry Goldwater in the 1964 presidential election. Goldwater carried the four states that voted for Thurmond in 1948 (Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina), plus Georgia and his home state of Arizona. Starting in that era of the 1964 election, the Republican Party started picking up conservative politicians and voters from the South. Senator Strom Thurmond switched to the Republican Party in 1964 to support the Goldwater candidacy. Senator Senator Jesse Helms of North Carolina was probably the most conservative senator in the 1960s. He was a segregationist who opposed the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act. He switched to the Republican Party and was instrumental in Ronald Reagan winning the North Carolina Republican primary in 1976. Helms and Thurmond pushed for Ronald Reagan to select a conservative running mate in 1976. Former Mississippi Senator Trent Lott switched to the Republican Party when he decided to run for Congress in 1972. Georgia Governor Lester Maddox left the Democratic Party to run as a candidate of the American Independent Party, as did Alabama Governor George Wallace. In the '90s, Lester Maddox endorsed the candidacy of Republican Pat Buchanan. Mississippi Governor Ross Barnett, a prominent segregationist who was in office during the time of the murder of Medgar Evers and three civil rights workers, considered a run against Lyndon Johnson. But he remained a Democrat and lost in his next election bid. In 1964 John McKeithen won the Democratic primary in Louisiana. The general election was evidence that Southern voters were starting to shift their allegiance. It was the first election since Reconstruction in which a Republican candidate got more than a token vote. Charlton Lyons, a former Dem turned Republican, received 38% of the popular vote. McKeithen did not endorse Goldwater or Johnson in the '64 election. Other Democrats who switched to the GOP starting in the '60s included David Treen (Louisiana), Jesse Helms (NC), Howard Callaway (Georgia), Floyd Spence (SC), Albert Watson (SC), Rod Miller (Louisiana), Henry Grover (Texas), John Connally (Texas), Tillie Fowler (Florida), Bob Barr (Georgia), Mills Godwin (Virginia), Elizabeth Dole (NC), Daniel French Slaughter, Jr (VA) and more. David Duke of Louisiana, Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, switched to the Republican Party in 1988. He was elected as a Republican to the Louisiana House of Representatives. Governor Rick Perry of Texas left the Democratic Party in 1989 and Governor Buddy Roemer of Louisiana did it two years later. Senator Harry Byrd left the Democratic Party in 1970 to become an independent. Governors Lester Maddox and George Wallace left the Democratic Party to run as candidates of the American Independent Party.

03-20-2013, 12:22 PM

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Re: Dixiecrats....how many of em turned Republicans? Quote: Originally Posted by KDeuce Sometimes a faction in a political party spins off and is given a name. Most recently a conservative faction formed the Tea Party. In 1948, it was the States' Rights Democrat Party, commonly called the Dixiecrats. They were politicians from the South who left the Democratic Party because of a civil rights plank in the Democrats' platform. The Dixiecrats ran Strom Thurmond as their candidate for president in 1948 against Harry Truman (Democrat) and Tom Dewey (Republican). Truman and Dewey both received 40+% of the vote. Thurmond carried only four states, all in the Deep South, and received 2.4% of the popular vote. The Dixiecrats folded their tent and many of the Southern conservative politicians returned to the Democratic Party. Democratic President Lyndon Baines Johnson pushed for passage of the Civil Rights Act in 1964, which caused conservative Southern Democrats to support Senator Barry Goldwater in the 1964 presidential election. Goldwater carried the four states that voted for Thurmond in 1948 (Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina), plus Georgia and his home state of Arizona. Starting in that era of the 1964 election, the Republican Party started picking up conservative politicians and voters from the South. Senator Strom Thurmond switched to the Republican Party in 1964 to support the Goldwater candidacy. Former Mississippi Senator Trent Lott switched to the Republican Party when he decided to run for Congress in 1972. Georgia Governor Lester Maddox left the Democratic Party to run as a candidate of the American Independent Party, as did Alabama Governor George Wallace. In the '90s, Lester Maddox endorsed the candidacy of Republican Pat Buchanan. Mississippi Governor Ross Barnett, a prominent segregationist who was in office during the time of the murder of Medgar Evers and three civil rights workers, considered a run against Lyndon Johnson. But he remained a Democrat and lost in his next election bid. In 1964 John McKeithen won the Democratic primary in Louisiana. The general election was evidence that Southern voters were starting to shift their allegiance. It was the first election since Reconstruction in which a Republican candidate got more than a token vote. Charlton Lyons, a former Dem turned Republican, received 38% of the popular vote. McKeithen did not endorse Goldwater or Johnson in the '64 election. Other Democrats who switched to the GOP starting in the '60s included David Treen (Louisiana), Jesse Helms (NC), Howard Callaway (Georgia), Floyd Spence (SC), Albert Watson (SC), Rod Miller (Louisiana), Henry Grover (Texas), John Connally (Texas), Tillie Fowler (Florida), Bob Barr (Georgia), Mills Godwin (Virginia), Elizabeth Dole (NC), Daniel French Slaughter, Jr (VA) and more. David Duke of Louisiana, Grand Wizard of the KKK, switched to the Republican Party in 1988. Governor Rick Perry of Texas left the Democratic Party in 1989 and Governor Buddy Roemer of Louisiana did it two years later. Harry Byrd left the Democratic Party in 1970 to become an independent. Governors Lester Maddox and George Wallace left the Democratic Party to run as candidates of the American Independent Party. Except comparing tea party and Dixiecrats is like comparing apples to cinderblocks. __________________ A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise for to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government. - Thomas Jefferson. The view through the Bull's Eye

03-20-2013, 12:50 PM

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Re: Dixiecrats....how many of em turned Republicans? Quote: Originally Posted by OmegaMan Again DEL (pardon the repetition), you are placing too much emphasis on "(R)" and "(D)". Try simply contemplating conservative and liberal instead. OM There was a time when the Republican Party was almost non-existent in the South. So Southern conservatives were typically members of the Democratic Party. It was the civil rights issue that caused the rise of the Republican Party in the South. A Democrat in the White House, President Lyndon Johnson, pushed for passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. That enabled a Republican conservative, Senator Barry Goldwater, to carry several states in the Deep South during an election when he lost badly elsewhere. President Nixon's campaign then developed a Southern Strategy for the 1968 election. In 1980, President Ronald Reagan opened his presidential campaign with a speech in Neshoba County, Mississippi, the area that had been a hotbed of KKK activity, including the murder of three civil rights workers by the Klan in 1963. Most Southern conservatives were Democrats until the Civil Rights era was the catalyst for a shift to the Republican Party.

03-20-2013, 12:54 PM

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Re: Dixiecrats....how many of em turned Republicans? Before the civil rights act was passed, the south voted nearly exclusively democrat. When LBJ signed the act he famously and correctly predicted that the democrats would lose the south for at least a generation. The civil rights act was the catalyst that flipped southern states from solidly democrat to solidly republican. Republican politicians took advantage. Google Nixons "southern strategy".

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