DOD now approving Wegovy/Ozempic for soldiers and dependents | TexAgs
Up until 2024 weight loss medications were not covered by DOD/Tricare as weight loss was considered a responsibility issue, not a health one.
Now soldiers can receive Wegovy/Ozempic after they first try Phentermine and Contrave. If those don't work, or they have health/drug interactions with them they can be prescribed Wegovy/Ozempic.
This will also apply to dependents of soldiers as well.
Wegovy/Ozempic is about $1,300 per month for retail cost. Active duty military will get it free while Guard/Reservists and dependents will pay about $20 a month.
Another safe, free and effective treatment?
How many years until we find out these weight loss drugs have lasting negative effects for a more than marginal % of people taking them? There's usually some type of trade-off when you are cutting such dramatic corners in life.
I hope I am wrong...if this drug is perfectly safe to take over the long term, this could really help reshape American healthcare.
Might be the cheapest way to increase soldier morale due to not having to come home to a dependa-potimis.
Which stock do I need to buy that covers this?
Not sure we do know. But we do know the lasting effects of obesity and it's pretty terrible. Probably cheaper for the DOD to just provide these drugs instead of losing fatties after spending years training them.
Vepp said:
Might be the cheapest way to increase soldier morale due to not having to come home to a dependa-potimis.
Hilarious! I'll never forget being at the PHX airport waiting for my flight to San Diego to begin boot camp and this middle age guy walks up to me and a few others and asks if we're going into the Marines. We say yes and he says you're going to have a messed up life and a big fat wife.
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How many years until we find out these weight loss drugs have lasting negative effects for a more than marginal % of people taking them? There's usually some type of trade-off when you are cutting such dramatic corners in life.
As the poster above me said, there will almost certainly be some unforeseen side effects that people will make a big deal out of while ignoring the wide spread and dramatic health improvements these drugs have otherwise made.
If you can't get past the "fatties should just walk" aspect of it, take heart in the fact that you no longer have to look at so many fatties.
"Which stock do I need to buy that covers this?"
Ask Nancy Pelosi &/or Dan Crenshaw... they're in the know when it comes to stock picking
Vepp said:
Might be the cheapest way to increase soldier morale due to not having to come home to a dependa-potimis.
I always preferred the Tricare-atops label.
1. Awwwww. Sparky found another drug to salute. "Salute the Ozy", indeed
2. And it is pathetic that in the one institution that should be pushing for healthy men, and can actually enforce it through exercise and diet, they decide to go the soft way of supporting drug use.
maybe, just maybe, the military should not coddle soldiers. especially the fat ones.
China is going to steamroll us.
C@LAg said:
1. Awwwww. Sparky found another drug to salute. "Salute the Ozy", indeed2. And it is pathetic that in the one institution that should be pushing for healthy men, and can actually enforce it through exercise and diet, they decide to go the soft way of supporting drug use.
maybe, just maybe, the military should not coddle soldiers. especially the fat ones.
China is going to steamroll us.
What we do now is discharge them, and it's extremely expensive and not effective. If we can pump them full of drugs and get some serviceable years out of them then it's better than just cutting losses, especially with retention as difficult as it is.
This is much easier said than it is actually done. Soldiers have the same unlimited access to carbed up processed junk food as everyone else. Weight managment is mostly diet and not exercise.Quote:
can actually enforce it through exercise and diet, they decide to go the soft way of supporting drug use.
It paralyzes the smooth muscles in your intestines, which causes atrophy and permanent paralysis in many cases. No way, Jose!
I'm honestly not surprised that you support it OP.
Logos Stick said:
It paralyzes the smooth muscles in your intestines, which causes atrophy and permanent paralysis in many cases. No way, Jose!I'm honestly not surprised that you support it OP.
It's got negatives for sure. But so does morbid obesity. I think it's just a question of what's worse. Which one do you think is worse?
Does your "costs analysis" include side effects and the surgery required to fix permanently paralyzed stomachs and intestines that stick together?
Ozempic isn't even legal for sale in the country it originates from. Seems like a swell idea to implement here.
It has nothing to do with obesity, it's just the next pharma cash cow that all the government programs will prescribe and subsidize.
No exercise, just take a shot and keep eating **** food.
Trajan88 said:
"Which stock do I need to buy that covers this?"Ask Nancy Pelosi &/or Dan Crenshaw... they're in the know when it comes to stock picking
I put money to work during this time and I have zero insider knowledge.
Teslag said:
Logos Stick said:
It paralyzes the smooth muscles in your intestines, which causes atrophy and permanent paralysis in many cases. No way, Jose!I'm honestly not surprised that you support it OP.
It's got negatives for sure. But so does morbid obesity. I think it's just a question of what's worse. Which one do you think is worse?
That's a false dichotomy.
It's telling that they will use these drugs off label, but won't consider ivermectin for Covid.
The country is not serious about obesity when it still allows food stamps buy soda.
Teslag said:
Logos Stick said:
It paralyzes the smooth muscles in your intestines, which causes atrophy and permanent paralysis in many cases. No way, Jose!I'm honestly not surprised that you support it OP.
It's got negatives for sure. But so does morbid obesity. I think it's just a question of what's worse. Which one do you think is worse?
The one that enables the erosion of personal responsibility.
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Logos Stick said:
It paralyzes the smooth muscles in your intestines, which causes atrophy and permanent paralysis in many cases. No way, Jose!I'm honestly not surprised that you support it OP.
I'll just keep eating meat and veggies and working out and living a very active life.
These possible symptoms (who knows if others we don't yet know about?) don't sound like too much fun: stomach paralysis, pancreatitis and bowel obstruction.
As your post alludes to, just seems like this could have lasting effects on basic bodily functions. We'll see.
This seems relevant here…
Ep. 72 "If a fish tank is dirty, you clean the tank. You don't drug the fish." Calley Means makes the case against Ozempic. pic.twitter.com/KYWjeJYJ47
— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) February 2, 2024
Teslag said:
Logos Stick said:
It paralyzes the smooth muscles in your intestines, which causes atrophy and permanent paralysis in many cases. No way, Jose!I'm honestly not surprised that you support it OP.
It's got negatives for sure. But so does morbid obesity. I think it's just a question of what's worse. Which one do you think is worse?
Yeah, but according to my pharmacist brother in law...a TON of people who are not obese, and could probably just eat a little better and run or hit the gym a few times a week, are getting on this. They are convinced it is a 100% safe magic bullet apparently, and are just lazy. We'll see.
Would be funny if the govt someday declared a "national healthcare crisis" and mandated it. Would you still be in favor of snitching out people to HR and Law Enforcement who forged doctors notes indicating compliance, to keep their jobs? Or have you become a better person since 2021?
What is the cost of the required surgery? Round to nearest $10 if possible. What percentage of users of this drug will need this surgery?Quote:
Does your "costs analysis" include side effects and the surgery required to fix permanently paralyzed stomachs and intestines that stick together?
If you want to save money, just exclude medical benefits for armed forces who can't meet physical standards. They can receive them again once they are back in compliance.
Teslag said:
What is the cost of the required surgery? Round to nearest $10 if possible. What percentage of users of this drug will need this surgery?Quote:
Does your "costs analysis" include side effects and the surgery required to fix permanently paralyzed stomachs and intestines that stick together?
Are you really going to become an insufferable evangelist again for another pharmaceutical product? Perhaps military leadership could once again become responsible for having their troops fit for full duty instead of relying on a drug that does not have a long term track record.
Well, he is a user of the drug, so we can pretty much count on it.
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Yep, I used it and lost 15 pounds off label. Had to pay out of pocket though.
Without real lifestyle change anyone using this will just get fat again.
There is only one true way to get healthy and stay healthy.
Edit to say this. I think this is absolutely horrible that an organization like the US military, especially the Army and Marines, that have since it's inception made physical fitness a standard of service, would lower itself down to providing quick fix and likely dangerous methods for service members to lose weight. I thought that was what running was for and taking the donuts away from Private Pyle.
Gonna be a lot of skinny dependas running around
Eliminatus said:
Which stock do I need to buy that covers this?
LLY and NVO
To a certain extent STVN
Teslag said:
This is much easier said than it is actually done. Soldiers have the same unlimited access to carbed up processed junk food as everyone else. Weight managment is mostly diet and not exercise.Quote:
can actually enforce it through exercise and diet, they decide to go the soft way of supporting drug use.
When I worked on auxiliary ships we would deliver pallets and pallets of monster energy and vending machine junk food to all of the navy ships.
Teslag said:
Logos Stick said:
It paralyzes the smooth muscles in your intestines, which causes atrophy and permanent paralysis in many cases. No way, Jose!I'm honestly not surprised that you support it OP.
It's got negatives for sure. But so does morbid obesity. I think it's just a question of what's worse. Which one do you think is worse?
Except you don't need this **** to not be a fat ass. Just shoot them up with trenbolone as well why we're at it, the *****s probably are so why not.