PODFATHER
by Adam Curry

  • From FM Pirate to Podcast Pioneer
  • Introduction
  • “They completely fucked
  • up Wi-Fi!” the tall lanky figure yelled with the slightest hint of a lisp I’d
  • never
  • heard before or even
  • seen written about. “Now we have to deal with the asshole carriers”, a
  • statement I would understand 24 months later.
  • Could this possibly be
  • the most impressive person I’ve ever met? I started comparing in my head; Paul
  • McCartney was definitely high on the list, but until now the hour long live
  • radio interview I did with Quincy Jones on HitLine USA coast to coast had been
  • my topper. Sitting in a darkened studio with Q, sharing a bottle of Latour
  • while discussing his career producing music from Lena Horne to Michael Jackson
  • was mind blowing to me at the time. Speaking of Michael, top 3 coolest
  • encounter for sure, but now this guy, who invited me to a private meeting in
  • the catacombs of the San Diego conference center during the annual Wall Street
  • Journal breakout “All Things D” conference was number one with a bullet.
  • “Adam, I love what
  • you’ve developed with Podcasting, we’ve been watching for a while now. I made
  • sure we gave you as much help as we could. The amount of data you were pushing
  • on your MacDrive was crazy!”
  • The ‘MacDrive’ he referred
  • to is the early consumer ‘cloud storage’ Apple provided in 2004 that I was
  • using to host my mp3 files for the first Podcast: The Daily Source Code.
  • The person telling me
  • this was Steve Jobs.
  • Steve’s right hand man
  • and now one of the highest executives at apple, Eddy Cue had called me a few
  • days earlier and asked if I had time to “meet with Steve”. Eddy took the brunt
  • of Steve’s yelling about industry issues before he slid out of the room to
  • leave us to our ‘meeting’.
  • “I never considered the
  • iPod as a radio receiver” he continued, “it’s such a powerful idea that I want
  • to incorporate it into iTunes. Are you ok with that?”
  • I was taken aback, I
  • had nothing to sell since the protocols I was using were open standards of the
  • internet, developed by visionaries such as Dave Winer who I had worked with for
  • three years prior to this meeting and they were free to use by all for all.
  • Yet here was one of the
  • titans of Silicon Valley sitting right in front of me, not asking to buy,
  • acquire or take anything over. Instead he was asking me to ‘bless’ the
  • endorsement of the concept. The moment was intimidating and thrilling at the
  • same time. He was asking me to work with his ‘team’ on bringing Podcasting to a
  • worldwide audience.
  • I suddenly noticed
  • Steve had stopped speaking while all this was swirling in my mind, he was
  • waiting for my answer. “Fuck yeah! I mean, yes! I’ll even give the team the
  • global podcast directory I’ve built so we have a good starting point”.
  • For the next 30 minutes
  • we talked about production tools, bandwidth constraints and elements of the
  • radio industry that I was translating to the laptop production suite. Steve
  • listened intently and showed great interest to the manner in which I was using
  • his computers. One of the programs I was using at the time to record with
  • called Audio Hijack Pro, utilized the Mac’s unique sound handling capabilities
  • so you could record the audio of anything playing through your speakers. A
  • critical capability at the time.
  • “The RIAA (the music
  • industry watchdog) keeps giving us shit about that” Eddy Cue chimed in, who had
  • re-entered the room. ”Makes it too easy to copy music” Eddy continued. “Stall ‘em” Jobs said. “We have to keep this
  • feature working for as long as we can”. Wow, Steve Jobs was now also on my team.
  • “What’s the business
  • model?” Jobs asked.
  • This I hadn’t actually
  • considered. Up until that moment, I had been focused on making the whole eco
  • system work. I just wanted to broadcast, and the mantra was:
  • transmitters?
  • We don’t need no stinkin’ transmitters!
  • “Advertising is the
  • most obvious” I said. “But I see problems down the road because there is no
  • gatekeeper, the network is open to all. I don’t think you can monetize the
  • network like that at scale”
  • I don’t think Jobs
  • heard the second part, or didn’t care, because he echoed back “yes, a
  • traditional advertising model should work” a statement he reiterated via email,
  • in which he introduced me to John Doerr, legendary venture capital investor
  • from the prestigious “Kleiner Perkins”. I took that as Steve’s thank you gift.
  • 2 hours later Jobs was
  • on stage at the conference announcing Podcasts in iTunes and not only credited
  • me as one of the inventors, but also started playing one of my recent Daily
  • Source Code episodes.
  • Now
  • Steve, along with journalist heavyweights Walt Mossberg and Kara Swisher of the
  • WSJ were looking at a computer screen
  • while my show intro played full blast in the conference hall. A total throwback
  • to families sitting around the wireless after dinner in the 1930’s listening to
  • the evening news, or perhaps one of President Roosevelt’s ‘fire-side chats’.
  • “Hey
  • everybody, welcome to the Dee Ess See” my voice boomed out, “I almost couldn’t
  • make the show today because my Mac has been acting up like a mother fucker!”
  • The
  • crowd and the trio on stage burst out in embarrassed laughter, Jobs grabbed the
  • energy expertly and answered a few non sequitur questions from Kara. Not only
  • did I know for certain that Jobs knew exactly what he was playing and was going
  • for a big launch of this boundary-less new form of radio, but I also now had
  • confirmation that Podcasting was here to stay.