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		<title>PC20-271-2026-09-18</title>
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		<ownerName>Adam Curry</ownerName>
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		<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Podcasting 2.0 September 18th 2026 Episode 271 - &amp;quot;Foot Terminal&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;">
			<outline text="One week after step one, Dave flipped the API endpoints to the new identity layer one at a time, drew the redirection chain on paper because it was faster than the AI agent, and the Podverse team politely asked for the documentation."/>
			<outline text="On the docket: fifteen clips from Podcast Week and the AI beat, step two of the scary stuff, an advent calendar of AI threat reports until the IPO, four websites caught pre-fetching audio, Apple&amp;#x27;s beta that tells developers a read-only chat room is user-generated content, the week the industry spent in New York, and a ninety-nine second Podnews Weekly Review."/>
			<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;The only board meeting that doesn&amp;#x27;t need government regulation to IPO&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;"/>
			<outline text="I&amp;#x27;m Adam Curry in the Heart of the Texas Hill Country"/>
			<outline text="And in Alabama, the man who flipped four endpoints in four days, watched the logs until morning, and beat a coding agent with a pen -- &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;Say hello to my Friend on the other End — Dave Jones!&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt;"/>
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		<outline text="Adam &amp; Dave have their SCBA's on and go deep into index refactoring and ad loads!"/>
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		<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;ShowNotes&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;" _expanded="true">
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			<outline text="00 - 🔥 STEP TWO OF THE SCARY STUFF — THE ENDPOINTS FLIP TO THE IDENTITY LAYER">
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Last week the table went in. This week the API started using it — one endpoint at a time, four days running.&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;"/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Sat 12 Sep:&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; &amp;quot;#api I&amp;#x27;m running a script to sync up podcasts.id and newsfeeds.id so that when a new feed is born they are in sync. During the cutover to podcasts.id as the canonical form, there were &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;about 11k feeds that drifted away from being in sync&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; with their podcast because of a gap in the auto_increment values. This isn&amp;#x27;t strictly necessary, it just will make human review a little less cumbersome.&amp;quot;"/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Mon night 14 Sep:&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; &amp;quot;#api Making some final refinements to the new api endpoints before deploying. These will be the first ones using the new podcast identity layer. 😰&amp;quot;"/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Tue 15 Sep — the first flip:&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; &amp;quot;#api The &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;podcasts/byfeedurl&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; endpoint is deployed with the first changes to the new podcast identity layer. &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;We will do these one at a time, watching for problems.&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; You will see nothing different in the response shape under normal circumstances. The response &amp;#x27;feed&amp;#x27; object&amp;#x27;s &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;`id` property now means the podcast ID&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;. The &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;`feedId` property now means the underlying feeds table row&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; that podcast is treating as canonical.&amp;quot;"/>
				<outline text="@dave — byfeedurl flips (15 Sep)" type="link" url="https://podcastindex.social/@dave/117275712527471636"/>
				<outline text="&amp;quot;It&amp;#x27;s not ideal to have the podcast id be represented as feeds.id in the new responses, but &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;anything else would have broken existing apps&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;. And, the meaning is still faithful to what it was before. That was always meant to be the ID of the podcasts. We just didn&amp;#x27;t have a way to logically express that.&amp;quot;"/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Same day:&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; &amp;quot;#api The new &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;podcasts/byfeedid&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; endpoint is deployed. That&amp;#x27;s all for today. Will watch the logs until tomorrow.&amp;quot; · &amp;quot;#api First run of the &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;itunes ID 404 reconciler&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; under the new podcast identity regime. 🤞&amp;quot;"/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Thu 17 Sep:&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; &amp;quot;#api The &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;podcasts/byguid&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; and &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;podcasts/batch/byguid&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; endpoints are now flipped to the new db schema.&amp;quot; · &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Fri 18 Sep, this morning:&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; &amp;quot;#api The new &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;podcasts/byitunesid&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; endpoint is live.&amp;quot;"/>
				<outline text="@dave — byitunesid live (18 Sep)" type="link" url="https://podcastindex.social/@dave/117291866588250685"/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;📝 The app developers noticed.&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; Mitch (Podverse): &amp;quot;listening to last week&amp;#x27;s P2.0... the &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;nextgen Podverse schema (and ogen) relies heavily on the Podcast Index IDs as basically the authority on feed uniqueness&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;. It sounds like we may need/want to do a substantial rewrite to account for how Podcast Index API nextgen will handle ids?… after it is settled, &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;I&amp;#x27;d appreciate any documentation&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;.&amp;quot;"/>
				<outline text="@mitch — the Podverse question (15 Sep)" type="link" url="https://podcastindex.social/@mitch"/>
				<outline text="Dave: &amp;quot;If I do my job right, &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;you will see nothing different and will not need to do anything&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;. I made sure the starting point for every canonical podcast index &amp;#x27;podcast id&amp;#x27; is the current live feed id. If you see some sort of drift or problem it would be a bug I need to fix… &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;the existing podcast ID&amp;#x27;s have always identified feeds, but now they will identify podcasts. The ID&amp;#x27;s themselves will not and have not changed.&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; I&amp;#x27;ll definitely be producing docs to flesh this out further though.&amp;quot;"/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;😄 Then the drawing:&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; &amp;quot;It&amp;#x27;s actually kind of confusing to explain. It&amp;#x27;s easier if I draw it out on paper. It sort of needs to be visualized.&amp;quot; → &amp;quot;#api These might be very hard to follow. There are &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;two &amp;#x27;entrances&amp;#x27; into the redirection chain&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; and the Index follows whichever one you come in on.&amp;quot; → &amp;quot;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Paper and pen was faster than some AI agent.&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;quot;"/>
				<outline text="@dave — the two entrances, drawn by hand (15 Sep)" type="link" url="https://podcastindex.social/@dave/117277226803519299"/>
				<outline text="The rule as Dave wrote it: &amp;quot;If you come in on the &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;&amp;#x27;byid&amp;#x27;&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; path, you start at the podcast layer and follow the redirection to the correct feed and serve it. If you come in on the &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;&amp;#x27;byurl&amp;#x27;&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; path, you start at the feeds layer and follow up the chain to the podcasts layer and then follow the redirection to the current canonical feed and serve that.&amp;quot;"/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;And the MCP ask, parked:&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; @csb asked for an MCP server. Dave: &amp;quot;Have to get through the rollout of the new schema first. &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Adding MCP now would just be too much confusion.&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; It&amp;#x27;s on the list for after all the new endpoints are delivered.&amp;quot;"/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;⭐ Board questions:&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;"/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;1.&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; Four endpoints flipped in four days with nothing caught fire. &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Which endpoints are left&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;, and which one are you most worried about — search? episodes? podping?"/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;2.&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; Walk the two entrances on air. If I hit &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;byid&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; with an old feed ID that has since been merged into another podcast — what comes back? The new canonical feed, silently? A redirect flag? Nothing?"/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;3.&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; Mitch&amp;#x27;s question is every app developer&amp;#x27;s question: &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;when do the docs land&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;, and is there a test endpoint where a developer can throw a redirected/merged feed at it and see the new behaviour before it hits their users?"/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;4.&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; The itunes-ID 404 reconciler — what does it do now that a podcast can outlive its feed? Does a dead iTunes ID move to the podcast row or stay with the feed row?"/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;5.&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; The 11k drifted IDs — human review &amp;quot;a little less cumbersome.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;How many merge decisions are sitting in the conflict queue&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;, and who is the human?"/>
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			<outline text="08 - 🐧 OMARCHY, AND THE &amp;#x27;AI SUMMARIZER&amp;#x27; EVERY PODCAST WEBSITE NOW HAS">
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Dave went Arch.&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; Sat 12 Sep, to Aleck Gates (&amp;quot;Why is everyone using Omarchy? Did I miss something important? My Fedora desktop just keeps chugging along&amp;quot;): &amp;quot;There is no doubt some of it is &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;the DHH spell&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; some people are under. I find him irritating so my draw was just having an easy starting point (config-wise) into Arch… I also wanted Hyprland and after I went to Ubuntu 24 on that box I saw Hyprland maintainers recommend against using it on Debian distros. It came down to Arch or Nix after that.&amp;quot; (You told the NA audience on 1901 to give the kids an old laptop and &amp;quot;install Omarchy.&amp;quot;)"/>
				<outline text="@dave — the Omarchy thread (12 Sep)" type="link" url="https://podcastindex.social/@dave/117258713441752734"/>
				<outline text="@csb&amp;#x27;s Omarchy facts of the week: &amp;quot;Lex has just reviewed Omarchy Linux creator&amp;quot; · &amp;quot;uses Slavic-made font: JetBrains&amp;quot; · &amp;quot;creator is EU citizen creating Omarchy in EU, you are welcome, Americans&amp;quot; · &amp;quot;can be installed from USB stick under 60 seconds.&amp;quot; @jaybrunet shipped an &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;llm-insert&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; plugin for the micro editor — &amp;quot;non-destructive, precise editing of config files when you don&amp;#x27;t want to send your whole config to a model on OpenRouter.&amp;quot;"/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;📜 Dave Winer, 11 Sep 2001, reposted by JS on the anniversary:&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Someday soon every home will have a weblog, and we&amp;#x27;ll have great aggregation tools that allow us to quickly assemble lists of loved ones who survived. A new button on cellphones that says &amp;#x27;I made it&amp;#x27; and it flows the fact to all your concerned friends.&amp;quot;"/>
				<outline text="scripting.com — 11 Sep 2001" type="link" url="http://scripting.com/2001/09/11.html"/>
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			<outline text="03 - 🗽 PODCAST WEEK NYC — WEBSTER&amp;#x27;S &amp;#x27;FRONT OF THE STORE&amp;#x27;, THE IAB SAYS NO NEW FRAMEWORK, AND A 99-SECOND PNWR">
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;The week:&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; Sounds Profitable Business Summit (Mon–Tue, 400+ people, 200 buyers), the IAB Podcast Upfront (Wed), Podcast Movement (Thu–Fri). Podnews was there all week; PNWR was 99 seconds."/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;🛒 Tom Webster&amp;#x27;s keynote — &amp;#x27;Are podcasts at the front of the store?&amp;#x27;&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; Previewing The Podcast Landscape 2026: &amp;quot;for the first time, &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;the top three places where people have &amp;#x27;ever&amp;#x27; consumed podcasts are not dedicated podcast apps&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;. YouTube, Spotify and Netflix don&amp;#x27;t show podcasts front-and-centre… Webster compared &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Netflix&amp;#x27;s podcasts category as the equivalent of the CD range in a Walmart&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; — just the most popular titles in a small selection which is hard to find; while a real podcast app like Apple Podcasts or Pocket Casts was the equivalent of &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Tower Records&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;.&amp;quot; Rob Walch, separately: &amp;quot;Netflix lists just &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;1 in 67,547&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; podcasts. (And doesn&amp;#x27;t list yours.)&amp;quot;"/>
				<outline text="Podnews — Are podcasts at the front of the store? (18 Sep)" type="link" url="https://podnews.net/update/podcasts-front-of-store"/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;📏 The IAB: a new framework is &amp;#x27;not needed&amp;#x27;.&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; Jason Adamski at the Upfront: the IAB &amp;quot;appears to reject a medium-agnostic measurement standard like the recently-released &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;AMP Accords&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;, saying &amp;#x27;the solution is not to build a new framework from scratch&amp;#x27;, and instead suggests… two separate standards from the IAB Tech Lab — the Podcast Measurement Technical Guidelines v2.2 and the Digital Video Served Impression Guidelines.&amp;quot; Cridland: &amp;quot;The guide — and even the full press release for it — &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;requires a registration with your email address to read. That&amp;#x27;s not how you set standards.&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;quot; He hosts the PDF himself."/>
				<outline text="Podnews — IAB: a new framework is &amp;#x27;not needed&amp;#x27; (17 Sep)" type="link" url="https://podnews.net/update/iab-framework"/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Dave asked the question on the instance&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; (16 Sep): &amp;quot;@samsethi &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Do you still have to pay to see the actual spec?&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;quot; James: &amp;quot;You&amp;#x27;ve never had to pay to see the spec. (This isn&amp;#x27;t v2.2 — which has been out for a few years — just a guideline that as far as I can see rejects the AMP Accords entirely).&amp;quot; Dave: &amp;quot;I could have sworn there was something you had to pay for. The IP block lists or something maybe?&amp;quot; James: &amp;quot;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Certification and I think the IP blocks as well…&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;quot;"/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;📋 The Podcast Study 2026&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; (Summit): &amp;quot;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;45% of podcast listeners would be &amp;#x27;at least somewhat likely&amp;#x27; to pay for a subscription tier to remove ads&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;; and &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;64% would sign up for email&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; from their favourite podcasters.&amp;quot; Edison: topic, hosts and guests decide what people pick; trailer and cover art least."/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;🎬 Video, still not a platform:&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; Podscribe at the Upfront — &amp;quot;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;not one of the top 500 shows are available on all video platforms&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;: YouTube, Spotify, Rumble and HLS via open RSS.&amp;quot; Amazon Music adds ART19, Triton Omny and Flightcast video (via the &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;alternateEnclosure&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; tag, HLS), six countries. Podscribe–Rumble attribution is &amp;quot;the first video platform to support all the signals required… under the &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;AMP attribution specification&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;.&amp;quot;"/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;📻 Machine Gods:&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; Kevin Roose and Casey Newton leave the NYT&amp;#x27;s Hard Fork for &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;NPR&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; — a video show from October, on member stations from next year; the first deal under NPR&amp;#x27;s new content chief. (&amp;quot;We guess they like tote bags.&amp;quot;)"/>
				<outline text="Podnews — A new home for Roose and Newton (16 Sep)" type="link" url="https://podnews.net/update/machine-gods-newton-roose"/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;💰 Money moves:&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; Substack adds a podcast tab — creators &amp;quot;collectively earn &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;over $200 million per year on Substack&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;quot;; Spotify Partner Program expands to 35 more markets, &amp;quot;total monthly payouts to enrolled shows have increased by more than a third&amp;quot;; Megaphone quietly raised SPAN&amp;#x27;s bar to three published episodes, undocumented, no comment; Giggly Squad&amp;#x27;s SiriusXM renewal &amp;quot;multiple offers around $150 million&amp;quot;; a &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Disctopia patent&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; that checks whether you are listening by asking you questions mid-episode, &amp;quot;part of any payment to creators.&amp;quot;"/>
				<outline text="Podnews — Substack podcast tab, $200M a year (11 Sep)" type="link" url="https://podnews.net/update/substack-podcast-tab"/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;🛠 Tooling:&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Podpage Agent-Built Websites&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; — &amp;quot;work with an AI agent, like Claude or Codex, to design your websites; and then use Podpage to make it properly hosted&amp;quot;; PodAnalyst v3 lets you &amp;quot;connect Iris to your own Claude or ChatGPT account&amp;quot;; Headliner auto-clips for YouTube; Threads now unfurls Apple/Spotify/iHeart podcast links; the &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Podcast Standards Project&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; met Thursday 12:30 ET near the venue, open to non-members."/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;🏷 Our people at PM:&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; Mike Dell (Blubrry): &amp;quot;I&amp;#x27;m headed there too. Speaking about podcasting 2.0 stuff.&amp;quot; Matt Medeiros was going &amp;quot;bearing Podcasting 2.0 gifts — I&amp;#x27;m advocating for the &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;funding tag&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;… Forget views — get the funding tag!&amp;quot; then: &amp;quot;Sadly I had to cancel my trip to podcast movement. But I&amp;#x27;m thinking of doing a virtual event around fundingtag.link.&amp;quot; Sam Sethi: &amp;quot;we featured you on Creators from TrueFans and talked about the three steps you need to undertake to make the Funding Tag work.&amp;quot;"/>
				<outline text="fundingtag.link" type="link" url="https://fundingtag.link"/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Sam Sethi&amp;#x27;s thread (15 Sep), the Creator Portal:&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; &amp;quot;The old model was simple: one creator → one podcast → one audio app… the next generation of creator platforms will look less like podcast apps and more like Creator Portals&amp;quot; — TrueFans newsletter launching next week, subscriber/open/click data to creators; roadmap: custom domains, native iOS/Android, CarPlay/Watch/TV, &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;stablecoin support&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;."/>
				<outline text="@samsethi — the Creator Portal thread" type="link" url="https://podcastindex.social/@samsethi"/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;⭐ Board questions:&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; (1) Webster&amp;#x27;s Walmart-vs-Tower-Records: is the Index&amp;#x27;s answer to Netflix a better front of the store — newpodcastapps.com — or is it that we never wanted to be in Walmart? (2) The IAB keeps its guide behind an email wall and its certification behind a fee; the AMP Accords are open. &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Does the Index endorse a measurement spec, or stay out?&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; (3) Substack&amp;#x27;s $200M and Spotify&amp;#x27;s payouts are both closed-loop money. &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Where is the V4V number for the week&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; — stats.podcastindex.org/v4v."/>
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