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		<title>Podcasting 2.0 July 24th 2026 Episode 266 - &quot;Research Velocity&quot;</title>
		<ownerName>Adam Curry</ownerName>
		<ownerEmail>adam@curry.com</ownerEmail>
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		<outline text="Podcasting 2.0 July 24th 2026 Episode 266 - &quot;Research Velocity&quot;">
			<outline text="Adam and Dave discuss the AMP proposal with the board room and try to escape the sandbox"/>
			<outline text="On the docket: the AMP Accords land (&amp;quot;if it works with your eyes closed, it&amp;#x27;s a podcast&amp;quot;), Pod News reacts to our own &amp;quot;streaming sats is over&amp;quot; line, the case for cutting podcast apps into the money, and the alternate enclosure finally getting picked up."/>
			<outline text="We are the only board meeting you can attend with your eyes closed"/>
			<outline text="I&amp;#x27;m Adam Curry in the Heart of the Texas Hill Country"/>
			<outline text="And in Alabama, the man who can tell you exactly why the roman empire fell — &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;Say hello to my Friend on the other End — Dave Jones!&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt;"/>
			<outline text="Download the mp3" type="link" url="https://op3.dev/e/mp3s.nashownotes.com/PC20-266-2026-07-24-Final.mp3"/>
			<outline text="Podcast Feed" type="link" url="http://mp3s.nashownotes.com/pc20rss.xml"/>
			<outline text="PodcastIndex.org" type="link" url="http://PodcastIndex.org"/>
			<outline text="Preservepodcasting.com" type="link" url="http://Preservepodcasting.com"/>
			<outline text="Check out the podcasting 2.0 apps and services newpodcastapps.com" type="link" url="http://newpodcastapps.com"/>
			<outline text="&amp;lt;i&amp;gt;Support us with your Time Talent and Treasure&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt;" type="link" url="https://www.paypal.com/donate/?token=m0z6N1K047lEsGvPDr3KMumKYHlUHRAdwPNY645UB0LR9fGf_OtpVByzHId7TEFYo9nXNS5aF33Zdjn9&amp;fromUL=true&amp;country.x=US&amp;locale.x=en_US"/>
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		<outline text="Positioning">
			<outline text="The Podcast Index is here to preserve, protect and extend the open, independent podcasting ecosystem."/>
			<outline text="We do this by enabling developers to have access to an open, categorized index that will always be available for free, for any use."/>
			<outline text="Try a new podcast app today and see how much better the experience can be." type="link" url="http://newpodcastapps.com/"/>
			<outline text="What is &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Value4Value&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;? - Read all about it at Value4Value.info" type="link" url="https://Value4Value.info"/>
			<outline text="V4V Stats" type="link" url="https://stats.podcastindex.org/v4v"/>
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		<outline text="Show Notes" _expanded="true">
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			<outline text="📌 FROM PREP.md — Adam&amp;#x27;s PC20 items" _expanded="true">
				<outline text="Pod News — podcast app revenue (source for &amp;#x27;cut the apps into the money&amp;#x27;)" type="link" url="https://podnews.net/article/podcast-app-revenue"/>
				<outline text="Pod News — the ad-skipping player" type="link" url="https://podnews.net/update/skipping-ad-player"/>
				<outline text="Board Q (Adam): &amp;quot;If you go to another chapter, is that a new play?&amp;quot; — for the AMP play=30s definition."/>
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			<outline text="00 - DAVE&amp;#x27;S WORLD: THE ALTERNATE ENCLOSURE FINALLY GETS PICKED UP + HLS-IN-RSS SURGE" _expanded="true">
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Take the lap:&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; Podbean and Buzzsprout are now testing/supporting the &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;alternate enclosure&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; — letting other apps (Pocket Casts, Amazon Music, iHeart, TrueFans) reach the video/alt versions instead of everything vanishing into the Apple-only void. Lead the boardroom with the namespace win."/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;HLS video in RSS is accelerating:&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; @js — &amp;quot;the rate of podcast hosts publishing high-quality video in podcast feeds using HLS has gone up quite a bit, thanks mostly to Transistor and Flightcast.&amp;quot; The open path is winning adoption; watch it live."/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Namespace repo status:&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; attribution bylines merged for the &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;block&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt; and &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;alternate enclosure&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt; tags (PRs #772/#773). Quiet week on commits — the plumbing is holding."/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Dave in the wild:&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; on the LLM-vs-tags thread — &amp;quot;A &amp;#x27;weight&amp;#x27; is just a form of heuristic. Regression is literally built into the LLM at a fundamental level. Re-weighting a model will always regress other weights.&amp;quot; (Continues the on-device-AI vs authored-tags fight from 265.) Also: Hover auto-renews domains 2 days out — @genebean&amp;#x27;s alert script gets a Dave thumbs-up."/>
				<outline text="HLS-in-RSS tracker (livewire)" type="link" url="https://hls.livewire.io/"/>
				<outline text="Dave Winer — distributable is not distributed" type="link" url="https://daveverse.org/2026/07/22/11383/"/>
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			<outline text="BM - FROM THE TIMELINE — podcastindex.social this week (JS &amp;amp; Dave)" _expanded="true">
				<outline text="@js: &amp;quot;the rate of podcast hosts publishing high-quality video in podcast feeds using HLS has gone up quite a bit — thanks mostly to Transistor and Flightcast.&amp;quot; (tracker: hls.livewire.io)"/>
				<outline text="@js: &amp;quot;Waves of new podcast listeners may exist, but they aren&amp;#x27;t downloading episodes via RSS, no matter how many podcast apps are being vibe-coded.&amp;quot;"/>
				<outline text="@js shared Castro&amp;#x27;s &amp;quot;Podcast apps: a framework for dying&amp;quot; — his read: &amp;quot;well thought-out, but a bit too pessimistic imo — the next few years are going to be interesting.&amp;quot; (Steven B: &amp;quot;anyone interested in the PC2.0 namespace read and consider this.&amp;quot;)"/>
				<outline text="@js on Patreon&amp;#x27;s &amp;quot;painful update&amp;quot; (Conte, layoffs): &amp;quot;I&amp;#x27;d love to know what change Patreon&amp;#x27;s operational market has undergone in the last six months.&amp;quot;"/>
				<outline text="@js on the scraping wars: a court ruled aggregated search data (URLs, snippets, index facts) are &amp;quot;publicly accessible facts,&amp;quot; not copyrightable — relevant to index/crawler rights."/>
				<outline text="@js (amplifying Dave Winer): &amp;quot;Threads and Bluesky are not distributed. Distributable is not the same as being distributed.&amp;quot;"/>
				<outline text="@dave: &amp;quot;A &amp;#x27;weight&amp;#x27; is just a form of heuristic. Regression is literally built into the LLM at a fundamental level… one slider.&amp;quot; — the on-device-abstraction vs authored-tags thread, continued from 265."/>
				<outline text="@dave, namespace repo: merged the block-tag + alternate-enclosure attribution PRs (mid-May); no new commits this week — the action is in adoption, not spec."/>
				<outline text="@csb → @dave @adam: &amp;quot;bros, I&amp;#x27;ve just sent you $15.55 via bitcoin gram and amazingly only one split failed&amp;quot; — boosts still flow on-network (counter to &amp;#x27;streaming sats is over&amp;#x27;)."/>
				<outline text="@mgdell (Mike Dell): &amp;quot;21 years of podcasting: the thing I don&amp;#x27;t want us to lose.&amp;quot;"/>
				<outline text="Mike Dell — 21 years of podcasting" type="link" url="https://mikedell.com/21-years-of-podcasting-the-thing-i-dont-want-us-to-lose/"/>
				<outline text="Castro — Podcast apps: a framework for dying" type="link" url="https://www.uncommonapps.nyc/p/podcast-apps-a-framework-for-dying"/>
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			<outline text="01 - &amp;quot;WHAT IS A PODCAST?&amp;quot; — THE AMP ACCORDS PUT A FORMAL DEFINITION ON IT" _expanded="true">
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;The AMP Accords landed this week&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; (Oxford Road&amp;#x27;s Dan Granger + Giles Martin), a year-long, commercial-end-of-the-industry group defining what a podcast IS, what a &amp;quot;play&amp;quot; is, and building exposure/attribution standards to replace the download. Note: the definition still names &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;open RSS feeds&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;."/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;The formal definition:&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; &amp;quot;an on-demand show rooted in the spoken word and fully intelligible as audio… accessed as audio or video via open RSS feeds and other distribution methods.&amp;quot; The commercial world catching up to what this room has said for years."/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;The play = 30 consecutive seconds&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; (audio OR video); Spotify already adopting it, YouTube ~same ballpark. No time-window qualifier yet. Downloads called &amp;quot;a faith-based metric&amp;quot; (Tom Webster). &amp;quot;Amen,&amp;quot; says James."/>
				<outline text="&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;It&amp;#x27;s in the air everywhere:&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; Mike Dell (@mgdell) — &amp;quot;21 years of podcasting: the thing I don&amp;#x27;t want us to lose.&amp;quot; And @js flagged Castro&amp;#x27;s @dabluck must-read &amp;quot;Podcast apps: a framework for dying&amp;quot; (@StevenB: &amp;quot;anyone interested in the PC2.0 namespace should read it&amp;quot;) — @js pushes back: too pessimistic, &amp;quot;the next few years are going to be interesting.&amp;quot;"/>
				<outline text="Mike Dell — 21 years of podcasting" type="link" url="https://mikedell.com/21-years-of-podcasting-the-thing-i-dont-want-us-to-lose/"/>
				<outline text="Castro — Podcast apps: a framework for dying" type="link" url="https://www.uncommonapps.nyc/p/podcast-apps-a-framework-for-dying"/>
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			<outline text="06 - QUIPS / TRANSITIONS / LINK DUMP" _expanded="true">
				<outline text="@js, open-web line of the week (via Dave Winer): &amp;quot;Threads and Bluesky are not distributed. Distributable is not the same as being distributed. It&amp;#x27;s like saying the Mets were able to win the World Series in 1962.&amp;quot;"/>
				<outline text="@js on the scraping wars: a court ruled aggregated search data (URLs, snippets, factual index data) are &amp;quot;publicly accessible facts,&amp;quot; not works protected under the Copyright Act — Google can&amp;#x27;t use copyright to block scraping. Chew on that next to the open Index."/>
				<outline text="@js, tools-not-talk: a Google study says people in manual/technical trades (electricians, mechanics) are using AI as a hands-on collaborator far more than white-collar workers."/>
				<outline text="Sethi&amp;#x27;s Michelin-star chicken-wings pub crawl (rubber gloves required) vs James&amp;#x27;s new &amp;quot;Clean up Clacton, vote Count Binface&amp;quot; t-shirt — the traditional close."/>
				<outline text="Google/SerpApi scraping ruling" type="link" url="https://www.seroundtable.com/google-lawsuit-serpapi-dismissed-41731.html"/>
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