• Moe Factz with Adam Curry for November 2nd 2020, Episode number 53

• "2020 Vision"

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  • Adam and Moe walk through the main factor that can determine the outcome of the 2020 Election

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• Executive Producers:
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  • Mitchell Rodgers
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  • Marc Lamont Hill - Wikipedia
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    • American academic, writer and activist
    • Marc Lamont Hill (born December 17, 1978) is an American academic, author, activist, and television personality. He is a Professor of Media Studies and Urban Education at Temple University in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.[1]
    • He was the host of the syndicated television show Our World with Black Enterprise and hosts the online Internet-based HuffPost Live. He is also a BET News correspondent, and a former political commentator for CNN and Fox News. Hill also hosts VH1 Live! and reunion shows for Basketball Wives. Hill was fired from his position as a commentator for CNN after remarks before the U.N. on the Arab''Israeli conflict that were perceived as anti-Semitic.[2][3]
    • Early life and education Hill was born and raised in Philadelphia. At 14 years of age, Hill met future NBA star Kobe Bryant at a basketball summer camp, and the two became close friends and remained so until Bryant's death.[4] After graduating from Carver High School, a public school in Philadelphia,[5] Hill attended Morehouse College, a private liberal arts college, but says he spent his time "hanging out and getting in trouble", and dropped out of Morehouse when he was a freshman.[6] He finished his undergraduate studies at Temple University, where he received his B.S. in education and Spanish in 2000, and he later earned a Ph.D. at the University of Pennsylvania.[7]
    • Career From 2005 to 2009, Hill was a professor of urban education and American studies at Temple University. In the fall of 2009, Hill joined the faculty of Teachers College, Columbia University as an associate professor of education.[8] He left Teachers College in 2014 to join the faculty at Morehouse College as Distinguished Professor of African American Studies.[1] In May 2017, it was announced that he was re-joining the faculty of Temple University as the Steve Charles Professor of Media, Cities, and Solutions.[9]
    • Hill worked as a political contributor for the Fox News Channel from 2007 until 2009, when he was fired.[10][11] During this time, he appeared on The O'Reilly Factor, Huckabee, and Hannity.[12] Prior to Fox, Hill was a commentator on CNN and MSNBC, as well as Court TV, where he was a weekly contributor to the Star Jones talk show. In August 2010, he replaced Ed Gordon as host of the syndicated television show Our World with Black Enterprise.[13] In May 2012, he joined Huffington Post as a host of HuffPost Live.
    • Activism He is a founding board member of My5th, a non-profit organization aiming to educate youth about their legal rights and responsibilities.[12][14] In 2001, he started a literacy project that uses hip-hop culture to increase school engagement and reading skills among high-school students. He also organizes and teaches adult literacy courses for high school dropouts in Philadelphia and Camden. Hill also works with the ACLU Drug Reform Project, focusing on drug informant policy.[12] Hill was named one of America's top 30 black leaders under the age of 30 by Ebony magazine.[15]
    • In addition, Hill works with African-American and Latino youth. Hill publicly argued for the release of Genarlow Wilson and Shaquanda Cotton. In the Cotton case, Hill organized an internet letter writing campaign.[16] Hill urged the public to write to District Attorney David McDade to express concerns about his desire to appeal the court's decision to void the sentence of Genarlow Wilson.[17] In May 2013, an article by Hill for Ebony.com entitled "Why Aren't We Fighting for CeCe McDonald?" won the GLAAD Media Award for "Outstanding Digital Journalism Article."[18]
    • On June 12, 2010, Hill alleged that while driving his car, he was unlawfully stopped by two Philadelphia police officers, one of whom was highly regarded at the time'--Officer Richard DeCoatsworth.[19][20] Hill, represented by his brother, attorney Leonard Hill, filed a civil lawsuit on October 12, 2010, against the City of Philadelphia and four police officers, including DeCoatsworth.[21]
    • Hill expressed support for the Green Party in the 2016 US presidential election. Of candidates Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, he stated: "I would rather have Trump be president for four years and build a real left-wing movement that can get us what we deserve as a people, than to let Hillary be president and we stay locked in the same space where we don't get what we want."[22]
    • U.N speech on Israel On November 28, 2018, while speaking in a meeting at the UN marking the International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People,[23] Hill said: "We have an opportunity to not just offer solidarity in words but to commit to political action, grass-roots action, local action and international action that will give us what justice requires and that is a free Palestine from the river to the sea."[24][25][26]
    • The Anti-Defamation League has said that the phrase "river to the sea" is code, often used by Hamas, for the destruction of Israel.[25][27]
    • In November 2018, Hill rejected this characterization, saying this was a "call for justice" referring to the existing borders of the Palestinian territories on the Mediterranean Sea (Gaza) and Jordan River (West Bank). Hill replied, "I support Palestinian freedom. I support Palestinian self-determination. I am deeply critical of Israeli policy and practice. I do not support anti-Semitism, killing Jewish people, or any of the other things attributed to my speech. I have spent my life fighting these things." He also said that the "river to the sea" phrase dates to the early 20th century and "has never been the exclusive province of a particular ideological camp" and that "The idea that this is a Hamas phrase is simply untrue."[28] On December 1, 2018, Hill said that "we must reject anti-Semitism in any form or fashion" and apologized "for the reception of my message".[29][30]
    • CNN firing Following his comments about Israel before the U.N., Hill's contract with CNN was terminated by the network. This was confirmed on November 29, 2018, when a CNN spokesperson announced that "Marc Lamont Hill is no longer under contract with CNN."[25][31][32]
    • The firing provoked some controversy, with some supporting it and others highly critical. The move was criticized by pro-Palestinian activists, who accused the network of caving to pressure from pro-Israeli groups.[23] Aymann Ismail of Slate said the decision set a "dangerous precedent" which was "another step toward recasting all speech about Israel's brutality as anti-Semitism".[2] Glenn Greenwald remarked that Hill's firing ''is a major defeat for the right to advocate for Palestinian rights, to freely critique the Israeli government, and for the ability of journalism and public discourse in the U.S. generally to accommodate dissent."[33] Bentley Addison of The Forward argued that advocating for Palestine is not necessarily antisemitic but said that "The fact that Hill used the rhetoric of groups that are violently anti-Semitic is a real problem, and the fact that he seems to advocate violent resistance against Israel should give pause to every supporter of a peaceful outcome to the conflict."[3]
    • The board of trustees of Temple University, Hill's employer, condemned Hill's words saying they included what "many regard as promoting violence", and in regards to the phrase "from the river to the sea" used by Hill, the trustees said that they are "widely perceived as language that threatens the existence of the State of Israel" that "has been used by anti-Israel terror groups". Furthermore, the trustees said that Hill's words were criticized as "virulent anti-Semitism" and "hate speech". However, as Hill was not representing the school and that as a "private individual is entitled to the same Constitutional protection of any other citizen, and that he has through subsequent statements expressly rejected anti-Semitism and anti-Semitic violence", the trustees decided not to dismiss nor discipline Hill.[29]
    • Louis Farrakhan A 2016 photograph of Hill with Louis Farrakhan, long accused of anti-Semitism, resurfaced in October 2018. He said he was unaware the image was being used for commercial purposes by the Nation of Islam website and would ask for it to be removed as it was inconsistent with "my values and my professional standards". He said he was utterly opposed to Farrakhan's then-recent comparison of Jews to termites.[34][35][36] In tweets at the time the image was more widely reproduced, Lamont Hill said that although he disagreed with Farrakhan on some issues, "I will not allow that to be an excuse for allowing dishonest media or poorly intentioned observers to create unnecessary division" adding he would "not be told who to speak to, sit with, or engage."[35] In October 2018, he said that he did now believe Farrakhan to be an antisemite.[36] At the time of the meeting in 2016, Hill said on Instagram of the meeting: "Been blessed to spend the last day with Minister Louis Farrakhan. An amazing time of learning, listening, laughing, and even head nodding to music. God is Great."[37][38]
    • Appearing on "The Breakfast Club" radio program in December 2018, Hill said that, while he does not agree with Farrakhan on all issues:
    • For some reason, if you meet with Minister Farrakhan and you don't throw him away wholesale, then you're castigated in a way that doesn't happen with anybody else. Why is only one set of people untouchable? And why does every black leader have to ritually denounce Farrakhan in order to sustain a position? That doesn't happen to anyone else.[39][40]
    • Books Hill, Marc Lamont (2016). Nobody: Casualties of America's War on the Vulnerable, from Ferguson to Flint and Beyond. Simon and Schuster. ISBN 9781-5011-2494-5. Hill, Marc Lamont (and Mumia Abu-Jamal) (2012). The Classroom and The Cell: Conversations on Black Life in America. Third World Press. ISBN 978-0-8837-8337-5. Hill, Marc Lamont (2009). Beats, Rhymes, and Classroom Life: Hip-Hop Pedagogy and the Politics of Identity . Teachers College Press. ISBN 978-0-8077-4960-9. Hill, Marc Lamont (2007). Media, Learning, and Sites of Possibility (New Literacies and Digital Epistemologies). Peter Lang Publishing. ISBN 978-0-8204-8656-7. References ^ a b "Marc Lamont Hill Joining the Faculty at Morehouse College '¹ Morehouse College News Center". Morehouse.edu. July 23, 2014. Archived from the original on July 26, 2016 . Retrieved July 16, 2016 . ^ a b Ismail, Aymann (November 30, 2018). "In Firing Marc Lamont Hill, CNN Emboldened the Effort to Cast Israel's Critics as Anti-Semites". Slate Magazine . Retrieved December 1, 2018 . ^ a b Addison, Bentley (November 30, 2018). "Demonizing Israel Isn't Anti-Semitic '-- But Marc Lamont Hill Crossed The Line". The Forward . Retrieved December 3, 2018 . ^ [1] ^ Yulanda Essoka (May 24, 2006). "Marc Lamont Hill, Akiba Solomon discuss the vitality of the art form". TheNotebook.org . Retrieved June 7, 2016 . ^ Dream Hampton (January 7, 2012). "Dropout to PhD: The Bold & Beautiful Marc Lamont Hill". Ebony . Retrieved June 7, 2016 . ^ Harris, Janelle (July 25, 2012). "SO WHAT DO YOU DO, MARC LAMONT HILL, AUTHOR, PROFESSOR AND TV COMMENTATOR?". Mediabistro. Archived from the original on August 3, 2014 . Retrieved October 18, 2014 . ^ "New Faculty | Teachers College Columbia University". Tc.columbia.edu. April 1, 2010 . Retrieved July 16, 2016 . ^ "Marc Lamont Hill Joining Temple's Klein College of Media and Communication". Klein College of Media and Communication. May 5, 2017 . Retrieved May 22, 2017 . ^ Armbruster, Ben (October 21, 2009). "Liberal Analyst Found Out Through 'Google Alert' That Fox News Fired Him". Think Progress . Retrieved November 28, 2019 . ^ "Liberal Analyst Marc Lamont Hill Fired From Fox News". Mediaite. October 16, 2009 . Retrieved July 16, 2016 . ^ a b c "Marc Lamont Hill official website" . Retrieved July 31, 2010 . ^ "Marc Lamont Hill: Fox News Contributor to host syndicated show" . Retrieved August 31, 2010 . ^ "My5th website". Archived from the original on August 5, 2010 . Retrieved July 31, 2010 . ^ "Marc Lamont Hill to speak as part of Black History Month!". Archived from the original on June 6, 2010 . Retrieved July 31, 2010 . ^ "More Thoughts on Shaquanda Cotton, Official Marc L. Hill website" . Retrieved July 31, 2010 . ^ " ' Write for Genarlow Wilson!', Official Marc L. Hill website ' " . Retrieved July 31, 2010 . ^ Townsend, Megan (May 14, 2013). "Laverne Cox, Dr. Kortney Ryan Ziegler present to Marc Lamont Hill, Ebony.com at #GLAADAwards". GLAAD . Retrieved January 13, 2014 . ^ Hill, Marc Lamont (March 15, 2011). "Marc Lamont Hill: Suit spoke for all victims of unjust police stops". www.philly.com . Retrieved October 17, 2018 . ^ Volk, Steve (May 5, 2015). "Richard DeCoatsworth: How a Hero Cop Fell". Philadelphia Magazine website . Retrieved October 17, 2018 . ^ Hill, Leonard (October 12, 2010). "Marc Lamont Hill v. City of Philadelphia, Officer Richard DeCoatsworth City of Philadelphia Police Department, 35th District et al" (PDF) . Hill & Associates, P.C. website . Retrieved October 17, 2018 . ^ Love, David (August 8, 2016). "What Does the Green Party Offer for Black Voters that Differs from Clinton and Trump?". Atlanta Black Star . Retrieved August 29, 2016 . ^ a b "CNN fires contributor Marc Lamont Hill for criticising Israel". www.aljazeera.com. November 30, 2018. ^ Keller, Megan (November 29, 2018). "CNN cuts ties with Marc Lamont Hill after Israel comments". TheHill. ^ a b c "CNN ends contract with contributor Mark Lamont Hill after speech on Israel". The Guardian. Associated Press. November 30, 2018 . Retrieved November 30, 2018 . ^ Adam Shaw (29 November 2018). "CNN commentator accused of dog-whistling for Israel's elimination in well-received UN speech". Fox News . Retrieved 29 November 2018 . ^ Hod, Itay; Levine, Jon (November 29, 2018). "Why CNN's Marc Lamont Hill Picked the Wrong Week to Make Anti-Israel Comments". The Wrap . Retrieved November 30, 2018 . ^ Rosenberg, Eli (November 30, 2018). "Marc Lamont Hill: CNN fires journalist who criticised Israel and called for 'free Palestine ' ". The Independent. London . Retrieved November 30, 2018 . ^ a b Stanley-Becker, Isaac (December 12, 2018), "CNN fired him for speech some deemed anti-Semitic. But his university says the Constitution protects him", Washington Post. ^ Hill, Marc Lamont (December 1, 2018), "Marc Lamont Hill: I'm sorry my word choices caused harm | Opinion", Philadelphia Inquirer. ^ Aidan McLaughlin (November 29, 2018). "EXCLUSIVE: CNN Fires Marc Lamont Hill Following Israel Comments". Mediaite . Retrieved November 29, 2018 . CNN severed ties with contributor Marc Lamont Hill on Thursday, following comments the university professor made about Israel and Palestine in a speech at the United Nations. ''Marc Lamont Hill is no longer under contract with CNN,'' a CNN spokesperson told Mediaite. ^ Keller, Megan (November 29, 2018). "CNN cuts ties with Marc Lamont Hill after Israel comments". The Hill . Retrieved November 30, 2018 . ^ CNN Submits to Right-Wing Outrage Mob, Fires Marc Lamont Hill Due to His ''Offensive'' Defense of Palestinians at the U.N., Glenn Greenwald, November 30, 2018, The Intercept ^ Levine, Jon (October 19, 2018). "Louis Farrakhan Uses CNN Contributor to Promote $260 Music Box Set". TheWrap . Retrieved November 30, 2018 . Hill said the photo was taken sometime in the autumn of 2016 after the minister invited a number of people to a Wyoming farm ^ a b Darcy, Oliver (November 30, 2018). "CNN severs ties with liberal pundit Marc Lamont Hill after his controversial remarks on Israel". CNN . Retrieved November 30, 2018 . ^ a b Wulfsohn, Joseph A. (October 19, 2018). "CNN Contributor Marc Lamont Hill Denounces Louis Farrakhan After a Photo of the Two of Them Surfaces". Mediaite . Retrieved November 30, 2018 . Hill explained that the photo was taken at a gathering in 2016 where invitees got to listen to Farrakhan's new album. ^ "ZOA pushes professor's firing from CNN, Temple University, for promoting Farrakhan". Jewish News Syndicate. October 24, 2018 . Retrieved November 30, 2018 . ^ "After CNN Highlights Persistence of Bigotry Against Jews, Network Personality Spouts Anti-Semitism At United Nations Event". B'nai B'rith International. November 28, 2018 . Retrieved November 30, 2018 . ^ Farrakhan, Louis; Gates, Henry Louis (1996). "Farrakhan Speaks". Transition (70): 140''167. doi:10.2307/2935354. ISSN 0041-1191. JSTOR 2935354. ^ Kenney, Tanasia (December 17, 2018). "Marc Lamont Hill Has No Plans to Denounce Farrakhan: 'I Ain't Got the Luxury of Throwing People Who Love Us Away ' ". Atlanta Black Star . Retrieved December 18, 2018 . External links Official website Appearances on C-SPANRyan Saavedra, "WATCH: CNN Commentator Calls For Elimination Of Israel, Endorses Violence Against, Reports Suggest", Dailywire"CNN commentator calls for elimination of Israel, endorses violent Palestinian 'resistance'", Washington Examiner
  • Rapper Lil Wayne feels the heat for his Trump endorsement - Los Angeles Times
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    • Lil Wayne is feeling the heat after he became the latest prominent rapper to endorse President Trump for reelection.
    • Before Trump jetted to Miami for last-minute campaigning, he met privately with the ''A Milli'' artist.
    • ''Just had a great meeting with @realdonaldtrump @potus besides what he's done so far with criminal reform, the platinum plan is going to give the community real ownership,'' Lil Wayne tweeted Thursday. ''He listened to what we had to say today and assured he will and can get it done.''
    • Trump retweeted the post from his personal account.
    • And the internet went wild.
    • ''Rappers are Republicans?!?!'' tweeted conservative pundit JT Lewis.
    • ''That fave hip hop playlist getting shorter by the minute,'' tweeted New Yorker writer Jelani Cobb.
    • Cobb pointed to an article he wrote in 2015, when Trump was still an unlikely fish in a big pond of Republican presidential candidates, titled ''Donald Trump Is a Rapper.''
    • ''In all the ways that matter, save actual performing, Donald Trump is a not a politician '-- he's a rapper,'' Cobb wrote at the time. ''If elected, he's less likely to represent George W. Bush's third term than Kanye West's first one.''
    • Cobb's ''fave hip hop playlist'' tweet alluded to a string of rappers who have come out in support of Trump's candidacy.
    • Curtis ''50 Cent'' Jackson responded to Lil Wayne's tweet with ''oh no '-- WAYNE, I WOULD HAVE NEVER TOOK THIS PICTURE.''
    • 50 Cent recently faced his own backlash after he endorsed Trump on Instagram in reaction to Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden's tax plan. Five days later, however, the ''Candy Shop'' rapper walked back his support after comedian Chelsea Handler (his ex-girlfriend) called him out on Jimmy Fallon's ''Tonight Show.''
    • ''I never liked him,'' 50 Cent tweeted in response to a clip of Handler's criticism.
    • Rapper and actor Ice Cube also distanced himself from Trump after advising the current administration on its ''promise to Black America,'' the so-called ''Platinum Plan.''
    • In July, Ice Cube released his ''Contract With Black America,'' which advocated for proposals including police reform, the abolition of private prisons and the elimination of mandatory minimum sentences.
    • Earlier this month, Trump advisor Katrina Pierson thanked the rapper for his ''willingness to step up and work with @realDonaldTrump Administration to help develop the #PlatinumPlan.'' Her tweet sparked pushback over what seemed like Ice Cube's support for Trump.
    • ''In reality, the Platinum Plan is a two-page document that's thinner on substance than a fifth-grader's book report,'' Times columnist Erika D. Smith wrote. ''And, despite what the Trump administration is claiming, it barely resembles Cube's aspirational Contract With Black America, which includes demands such as abolishing private prisons and eliminating mandatory minimum sentences, or Joe Biden's more exhaustive plan, which was introduced back in May.''
    • After interviews with notable Black journalists Roland Martin and April D. Ryan, Ice Cube clarified his position, reiterating that he has never met with Trump, nor has he endorsed him.
    • ''Facts: I put out the CWBA [Contract With Black America],'' the rapper-turned-actor tweeted. ''Both parties contacted me. Dems said we'll address the CWBA after the election. Trump campaign made some adjustments to their plan after talking to us about the CWBA.''
    • ''Harverd Dropout'' rapper Lil Pump joined the fray on Oct. 25, yelling on Instagram: ''All I gotta say is: Trump 2020.'' Lil Pump followed the Instagram Live endorsement with a photo of him meeting Trump, as well as a doctored image of ''Lil Trump'' featuring the president with dreadlocks and face piercings.
    • ''In my short time as an adult, I've learned that what matters is what people believe to be true,'' The Times' Erin B. Logan wrote in an opinion piece. ''And many people '-- including some Black men '-- believe Trump to be the epitome of the American dream, a dream they wish to attain. This falsehood was parroted into America's consciousness thanks to Trump's marketing '-- and rappers.''
    • In the pro-Biden camp, rapper Lil Jon condemned Trump's candidacy in a harshly worded tweet Thursday.
    • Lil Jon joins a long list of rap and hip-hop artists who have endorsed Biden, including Cardi B, Offset, Common, Bad Bunny and Snoop Dogg, who said he would vote this year for the first time ''because I can't stand to see [Trump] in office one more year.''
  • Swath | Definition of Swath at Dictionary.com
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    • Top Definitions Quizzes Examples Explore Dictionary British Idioms And Phrases [ swoth, swawth ]
    • / swÉ'θ, swÉ--θ /
    • noun the space covered by the stroke of a scythe or the cut of a mowing machine.
    • the piece or strip so cut.
    • a line or ridge of grass, grain, or the like, cut and thrown together by a scythe or mowing machine.
    • a strip, belt, or long and relatively narrow extent of anything.
    • QUIZZESBEFORE THE GLOAMING, SOLVE THIS WORD OF THE DAY QUIZ!Use your prescient powers to get a perfect score on the Words of the Day from October 26''November 1, 2020!
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    • What does ''autoschediasm'' mean?
    • Idioms for swath cut a swath , to make a pretentious display; attract notice: The new doctor cut a swath in the small community.
    • Origin of swath before 900; Middle English; Old English sw...th footprint; cognate with German Shwade
    • WORDS THAT MAY BE CONFUSED WITH swath swath , swathe Words nearby swath swash letter,
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    • swastika,
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    • Swati,
    • Swatow,
    • swats,
    • swatterDictionary.com UnabridgedBased on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, (C) Random House, Inc. 2020
    • Example sentences from the Web for swathStill, a 30-something who knows his way around a cufflink is viewed with some suspicion by a swath of the French left.
    • He spoke of how well the present campaign had done in his home borough, particularly in a swath that he termed West Brooklyn.
    • A swath of regular military allies have sought postponements or rejected the idea of firing missiles toward Damascus.
    • In west-central Kansas, up to a fifth of the irrigated farmland along a 100-mile swath of the aquifer has already gone dry.
    • Why would Kristen choose to cheat with her SWATH director when she had Thor the god of thunder on the same movie set?
    • For several days his voracious plowshare had been turning over the prairie in long ribbons of swath like the pages of a book.
    • I'--I can clean the rust from my old sword and I am sure it will cut as red a swath now as it did in '63.
    • Well cut a swath out there, Betty, thatll make em sit up and take notice.
    • She passed on her own errand, cutting, as it were, a swath of spirit through the soft influence of the spring.
    • Allison laid over in a vertical bank, and, as he swung back his guns, cut a swath across the enemy craft.
    • British Dictionary definitions for swath noun plural swaths ( swÉ--ː°z ) or swathes the width of one sweep of a scythe or of the blade of a mowing machine
    • the strip cut by either of these in one course
    • the quantity of cut grass, hay, or similar crop left in one course of such mowing
    • a long narrow strip or belt
    • Word Origin for swathOld English sw...th; related to Old Norse svath smooth patch
    • Collins English Dictionary - Complete & Unabridged 2012 Digital Edition (C) William Collins Sons & Co. Ltd. 1979, 1986 (C) HarperCollins Publishers 1998, 2000, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2012
    • Idioms and Phrases with swath The American Heritage® Idioms Dictionary Copyright (C) 2002, 2001, 1995 by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company.
  • Eviscerate | Definition of Eviscerate by Merriam-Webster
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    • evis·'‹cer·'‹ate | \ i-Ëvi-sÉ-ˌrāt \ eviscerated ; eviscerating
    • transitive verb
    • b : to deprive of vital content or force
    • 2 : to remove an organ from (a patient) or the contents of (an organ)
    • intransitive verb
    • : to protrude through a surgical incision or suffer protrusion of a part through an incision
  • Hubris - Wikipedia
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    • Extreme pride or overconfidence, often in combination with arrogance
    • Arrogance redirects here.
    • Illustration for John Milton's
    • Paradise Lost by
    • Gustave Dor(C) (1866). The spiritual descent of
    • Lucifer into
    • Satan - one of the most famous examples of hubris.
    • Hubris (, from ancient Greek ὕβρις ) describes a personality quality of extreme or foolish pride or dangerous overconfidence,[1] often in combination with (or synonymous with) arrogance.[2] "Arrogance" comes from the Latin adrogare and it means feeling a right to demand certain attitudes and behaviors from other people; "pretension," which is also associated with it, is not synonymous with hubris.[3][need quotation to verify ] According to studies, hubris, arrogance and pretension are related to the need for victory (even if it doesn't always mean winning) instead of reconciliation, such as "friendly" groups might promote.[4] Hubris is usually perceived[by whom? ] as a characteristic of an individual rather than a group, although the group the offender belongs to may suffer collateral consequences from wrongful acts. Hubris often indicates a loss of contact with reality and an overestimation of one's own competence, accomplishments or capabilities. The adjectival form of the noun hubris is "hubristic".
    • The term hubris originated in ancient Greek,[5] where it had several different meanings depending on the context: in legal usage it meant assault or sexual crimes and theft of public property,[6] and in religious usage it meant transgression against a god.[7]
    • Ancient Greek origin [ edit ] Common use [ edit ] In ancient Greek, hubris referred to ''outrage'': actions that violated natural order, or which shamed and humiliated the victim, sometimes for the pleasure or gratification of the abuser. In some contexts, the term had a sexual connotation.[5] Shame was frequently reflected upon the perpetrator, as well.[8]
    • Legal usage [ edit ] In legal terms, hubristic violations of the law included what might today be termed assault-and-battery, sexual crimes, or the theft of public or sacred property. Two well-known cases are found in the speeches of Demosthenes, a prominent statesman and orator in ancient Greece. These two examples occurred when first Midias punched Demosthenes in the face in the theatre (Against Midias), and second when (in Against Conon) a defendant allegedly assaulted a man and crowed over the victim. Yet another example of hubris appears in Aeschines' Against Timarchus, where the defendant, Timarchus, is accused of breaking the law of hubris by submitting himself to prostitution and anal intercourse. Aeschines brought this suit against Timarchus to bar him from the rights of political office and his case succeeded.[6]
    • In ancient Athens, hubris was defined as the use of violence to shame the victim (this sense of hubris could also characterize rape).[9] Aristotle defined hubris as shaming the victim, not because of anything that happened to the committer or might happen to the committer, but merely for that committer's own gratification:
    • to cause shame to the victim, not in order that anything may happen to you, nor because anything has happened to you, but merely for your own gratification. Hubris is not the requital of past injuries; this is revenge. As for the pleasure in hubris, its cause is this: naive men think that by ill-treating others they make their own superiority the greater.[10][failed verification ][11][12]
    • Crucial to this definition are the ancient Greek concepts of honour (Ïιμή, timÄ') and shame (αἰδώς, aidōs). The concept of honour included not only the exaltation of the one receiving honour, but also the shaming of the one overcome by the act of hubris. This concept of honour is akin to a zero-sum game. Rush Rehm simplifies this definition of hubris to the contemporary concept of "insolence, contempt, and excessive violence".[13]
    • Modern usage [ edit ] In its modern usage, hubris denotes overconfident pride combined with arrogance.[2] Hubris is often[quantify ] associated with a lack of humility. Sometimes a person's hubris is also associated[by whom? ] with ignorance. The accusation of hubris often implies that suffering or punishment will follow, similar to the occasional pairing of hubris and nemesis in Greek mythology.[citation needed ] The proverb "pride goeth (goes) before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall" (from the biblical Book of Proverbs, 16:18) is thought[by whom? ] to sum up the modern use of hubris. Hubris is also referred to as "pride that blinds" because it often causes a committer of hubris to act in foolish ways that belie common sense.[14] In other words, the modern definition may be thought of as, "that pride that goes just before the fall."
    • Examples of hubris often appear in literature, archetypically in Greek tragedy, and arguably most famously in John Milton's Paradise Lost, in which Lucifer attempts to compel the other angels to worship him, is cast into hell by God and the innocent angels, and proclaims: "Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven." Victor in Mary Shelley's Frankenstein manifests hubris in his attempt to become a great scientist; he creates life through technological means, but comes to regret his project. Marlowe's play Doctor Faustus portrays the eponymous character as a scholar whose arrogance and pride compel him to sign a deal with the Devil, and retain his haughtiness until his death and damnation, despite the fact that he could easily have repented had he chosen to do so.[15]
    • General George Armstrong Custer furnished an historical example of hubris in the decisions that culminated in the 1876 Battle of Little Big Horn; he apocryphally exclaimed: "Where did all those damned Indians come from?"[16]
    • Larry Wall famously promotes "the three great virtues of a programmer: laziness, impatience, and hubris".[17]
    • Pride [ edit ] C. S. Lewis wrote in Mere Christianity that pride is the "anti-God" state, the position in which the ego and the self are directly opposed to God: "Unchastity, anger, greed, drunkenness, and all that, are mere fleabites in comparison: it was through Pride that the devil became the devil: Pride leads to every other vice: it is the complete anti-God state of mind."[18]
    • Arrogance [ edit ] Look up arrogance in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.The Oxford English Dictionary defines "arrogance" in terms of "high or inflated opinion of one's own abilities, importance, etc., that gives rise to presumption or excessive self-confidence, or to a feeling or attitude of being superior to others [...]."[19]Adrian Davies sees arrogance as more generic and less severe than hubris.[20]
    • Religious usage [ edit ] Ancient Greece [ edit ] The Greek word for sin, hamartia (ἁμαρÏία), originally meant "error" in the ancient dialect, and so poets like Hesiod and Aeschylus used the word "hubris" to describe transgressions against the gods.[7] A common way that hubris was committed was when a mortal claimed to be better than a god in a particular skill or attribute. Claims like these were rarely left unpunished, and so Arachne, a talented young weaver, was transformed into a spider when she said that her skills exceeded those of the goddess Athena. Additional examples include Icarus, Phaethon, Salmoneus, Niobe, Cassiopeia, Tantalus, and Tereus.
    • These events were not limited to myth, and certain figures in history were considered to be have been punished for committing hubris through their arrogance. One such person was king Xerxes as portrayed in Aeschylus's play The Persians, and who allegedly threw chains to bind the Hellespont sea as punishment for daring to destroy his fleet.
    • What is common to all these examples is the breaching of limits, as the Greeks believed that the Fates (Î'Îá–ραι) had assigned each being with a particular area of freedom, an area that even the gods could not breach.[21]
    • The goddess Hybris has been described[by whom? ] as having "insolent encroachment upon the rights of others".[22]
    • Christianity [ edit ] In the Old Testament, the "hubris is overweening pride, superciliousness or arrogance, often resulting in fatal retribution or nemesis". Proverbs 16:18 states: "Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall".[23]
    • The word hubris as used in the New Testament parallels the Hebrew word pasha, meaning "transgression". It represents a pride that "makes a man defy God", sometimes to the degree that he considers himself an equal.[24]In contrast to this, the common word for "sin" was hamartia, which refers to an error and reflects the complexity of the human condition. Its result is guilt rather than direct punishment (as in the case of hubris).[citation needed ]
    • See also [ edit ] References [ edit ] ^ "Definition of HUBRIS". www.merriam-webster.com . Retrieved 2016-04-22 . ^ a b Picone, P. M., Dagnino, G. B., & Min , A. (2014). ". The origin of failure: A multidisciplinary appraisal of the hubris hypothesis and proposed research agenda". The Academy of Management Perspectives. 28 (4): 447''68. doi:10.5465/amp.2012.0177. CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link) ^ yasmin (2019-06-07). "O que (C) uma pessoa arrogante? Por que evitar a arrogncia?". Defini§£o.net (in Portuguese) . Retrieved 2020-04-16 . ^ "What Makes the Arrogant Person So Arrogant?". Psychology Today . Retrieved 2020-04-16 . ^ a b David Cohen, "Law, society and homosexuality or hermaphrodity in Classical Athens" in Studies in ancient Greek and Roman society By Robin Osborne; p. 64 ^ a b Aeschines "Against Timarchus" from Thomas K. Hubbard's Homosexuality in Greece and Rome: A Sourcebook of Basic Documents ^ a b The Editors of Encyclopaedia Britannica, "Hubris", Encyclopaedia Britannica ^ Cartledge; Paul Millett (2003). Nomos: Essays in Athenian Law, Politics and Society. Cambridge University Press. p. 123. ISBN 978-0-521-52209-0 . Retrieved 2011-11-14 . ^ "Hubris". Encyclop...dia Britannica . Retrieved 21 April 2016 . ^ Aristotle, Rhetoric 1378b. ^ Cohen, David (1995). Law, Violence, and Community in Classical Athens. Cambridge University Press. p. 145. ISBN 0521388376 . Retrieved March 6, 2016 . ^ Ludwig, Paul W. (2002). Eros and Polis: Desire and Community in Greek Political Theory. Cambridge University Press. p. 178. ISBN 1139434179 . Retrieved March 6, 2016 . ^ Rehm, Rush (2014). Radical Theatre: Greek Tragedy in the Modern World. Google Books: A&C Black. p. 75. ISBN 9781472502339 . Retrieved 2 October 2018 . ^ "The 1920 Farrow's Bank Failure: A Case of Managerial Hubris". Durham University . Retrieved October 1, 2014 . ^ "Hubris - Examples of Hubris in Literature". Literary Devices. ^ Morson, Gary Saul (June 28, 2011). The Words of Others: From Quotations to Culture. New Haven. Connecticut: Yale University Press. p. 176. ISBN 9780300167474 . Retrieved March 5, 2016 . ''Proving that it is better to be mustered out of the militia than it is to be custered out of the cavalry.'' ^ Wall, Larry; Schwartz, Randal L.; Christiansen, Tom; Potter, Stephen (1991). Wall, Larry; Talbot, Steve (eds.). Programming Perl. Unix Programming (2 ed.). O'Reilly & Associates (published 1996). p. xiii. ISBN 9781565921498 . Retrieved 22 August 2020 . We will encourage you to develop the three great virtues of a programmer: laziness, impatience, and hubris. ^ Lewis, C.S. (2001). Mere Christianity : a revised and amplified edition, with a new introduction, of the three books, Broadcast talks, Christian behaviour, and Beyond personality . San Francisco: Harper. ISBN 978-0-06-065292-0. ^ "arrogance". Oxford English Dictionary (3rd ed.). Oxford University Press. September 2005. (Subscription or UK public library membership required.) ^ Davies, Adrian (2011). "How Can Human Nature and Corporate Governance Be Reconciled?". The Globalisation of Corporate Governance: The Challenge of Clashing Cultures (reprint ed.). London: Routledge (published 2016). p. 68. ISBN 9781317030102 . Retrieved 22 August 2020 . [...] hubris '' a form of overweening pride and arrogance. [...] In modern usage hubris is an extreme form of arrogance, often in the face of facts [...]. ^ Cornelius Castoriadis. Ce qui fait la Gr¨ce, tome 1: D'Hom¨re H(C)raclite, chapitre V. Editeur: Seuil (9 mars 2004). ^ Chisholm, Hugh, ed. (1911). "Themis" . Encyclop...dia Britannica. 26 (11th ed.). Cambridge University Press. p. 758. ^ Andrew Fellows, 2019, Gaia, Psyche and Deep Ecology: Navigating Climate Change in the Anthropocene. ^ Stanley J. Grenz, Theology for the Community of God, Pub: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing, 2000 - "The Greek word hubris, which occurs occasionally in the New Testament (e.g., Acts 27:10, 21; 2 Cor.12:10). parallels the Hebrew pasha. William Barclay offers a helpful definition of the term. Hubris, he writes, 'is mingled pride and cruelty. Hubris is the pride which makes a man defy God, and the arrogant contempt which makes him trample on the hearts of his fellow men.' [...] Hence, it is the forgetting of personal creatureliness and the attempt to be equal with God." Further reading [ edit ] Nicolas R. E. Fisher, Hybris: A Study in the Values of Honour and Shame in Ancient Greece, Warminster, Aris & Phillips, 1992.Cairns, Douglas L. (1996). "Hybris, Dishonour, and Thinking Big" (PDF) . Journal of Hellenic Studies. 116: 1''32. doi:10.2307/631953. JSTOR 631953. MacDowell, Douglas (1976). "Hybris in Athens". Greece and Rome. 23 (1): 14''31. doi:10.1017/S0017383500018210. Michael DeWilde, The Psychological and Spiritual Roots of a Universal AfflictionHubris on 2012's Encyclop...dia Britannica"How to Use Hubris Correctly". Grammarist. Robert A. Stebbins, From Humility to Hubris among Scholars and Politicians: Exploring Expressions of Self-Esteem and Achievement. Bingley, UK: Emerald Group Publishing, 2017.External links [ edit ] Look up hubris in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.
  • Hubris | Definition of Hubris by Merriam-Webster
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    • hu·'‹bris | \ Ëhy¼-brÉs \ : exaggerated pride or self-confidence
    • Other Words from hubris hubristic \ hy¼-'‹Ëbri-'‹stik \ adjective Hubris Comes From Ancient GreeceEnglish picked up both the concept of hubris and the term for that particular brand of cockiness from the ancient Greeks, who considered hubris a dangerous character flaw capable of provoking the wrath of the gods. In classical Greek tragedy, hubris was often a fatal shortcoming that brought about the fall of the tragic hero. Typically, overconfidence led the hero to attempt to overstep the boundaries of human limitations and assume a godlike status, and the gods inevitably humbled the offender with a sharp reminder of his or her mortality.
    • Did You Know?To the Greeks, hubris referred to extreme pride, especially pride and ambition so great that they offend the gods and lead to one's downfall. Hubris was a character flaw often seen in the heroes of classical Greek tragedy, including Oedipus and Achilles. The familiar old saying "Pride goeth before a fall" is basically talking about hubris.
    • Examples of hubris in a Sentence When conceived it was a project of almost unimaginable boldness and foolhardiness, requiring great bravura, risking great hubris . '-- Simon Winchester , The Professor and the Madman , 1998 If you were born Somewhere, hubris would come easy. But if you are Nowhere's child, hubris is an import, pride a thing you decide to acquire. '-- Sarah Vowell , GQ , May 1998 '... our belief in democracy regardless of local conditions amounts to cultural hubris . '-- Robert D. Kaplan , Atlantic , December 1997 His failure was brought on by his hubris.
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    • Boyce D. Watkins (born June 20, 1971) is an American[1] author, economist, political analyst, and social commentator. During his academic career, Boyce Watkins was a visiting scholar with the Barbara Jordan - Mickey Leland School Of Public Affairs at Texas Southern University.[2]
    • Boyce Watkins has been a former Visiting Fellow at the Shanghai University of Finance and Economics and the Centre for European Economic Research (Mannheim, Germany).[3] Watkins is a member, by donation, of the College Sports Research Institute at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.[4]
    • He has authored several financial advice books, including Financial Lovemaking 101: Merging Assets with your Partner in Ways that Feel Good, Black American Money, as well as What if George Bush were a Black Man?; his work has also appeared in such publications as the Journal of Small Business Management[5] and The Journal of Economics and Business.[6]
    • In addition to publishing scholarly articles on finance and investing, Watkins is an advocate for education, economic empowerment, and social justice, and has made regular appearances in various national media outlets, including CNN, Good Morning America, MSNBC, Fox News, BET, NPR, Essence Magazine, USA Today, Today, ESPN, The Tom Joyner Morning Show, and CBS Sports.[2][7] He was also a frequent guest on The Wendy Williams Experience radio program, and remains a frequent contributor to theGrio and TheLoop21.com.[8]
    • Early life [ edit ] Watkins was born in Louisville, Kentucky, to a teen mother.[1] His father left shortly after his birth and only spoke to his son three times. Watkins' mother, Robin Couch, married when Boyce was 3 years old to Larry Watkins, a young Vietnam veteran from Louisville.[1] The family struggled for years but worked hard for economic advancement.[9]
    • Watkins' mother encouraged her children to be the best they could be at anything they did. Larry, who would become Watkins' adopted father, was a tough, stern head of the household who joined the local police force at the age of 30.
    • Watkins struggled in school, earning very poor grades all throughout.[1] His teachers placed him in special education and told him he was not smart enough to go to college.
    • "When I look back on those years as a black boy in a racist state like Kentucky, I get angry," says Watkins. "I almost lost the future that God had in store for me."
    • In high school, Watkins was captain of his track team. He also had a job working for Taco Bell,[10] along with other fast food restaurants.
    • Watkins' teenage years were tough. His father was a good provider, but very tough, leading him to feel abandoned and unloved. His uncle, 8 years his senior, was regularly sent to prison, which only added to his feelings of abandonment. "Those were tough years for me," says Watkins. "I honestly think my mind has blocked them out."[citation needed ] Watkins received a small scholarship to the University of Kentucky, from a group called "Black Achievers", based in Louisville, which was just enough to pay his tuition.[citation needed ]
    • Early adulthood [ edit ] During his senior year in high school, Watkins met his first girlfriend. Six months after high school graduation, she gave birth to their first and only child.[1] He was a freshman in college at the time, and the child was born during winter break.
    • The pressure of fatherhood further motivated Watkins to work hard in school. It was during his first semester at the University of Kentucky that he earned straight As for the first time in his life.
    • Watkins went on to win several honors in college, including Freshman of the Year, Sophomore of the Year, and numerous scholarships. He finished with a triple major in Finance, Economics, and Business Management. He was selected as The Wall Street Journal Outstanding Graduating Senior in Finance and went on to begin pursuing his PhD at Indiana University.[citation needed ]
    • [ edit ] Watkins left the PhD program soon afterwards, deciding to return to his alma mater, the University of Kentucky, in order to study mathematics and statistics, two subjects he'd struggled with in the past.
    • It was during his time as a graduate student at the University of Kentucky that Watkins became more involved with political activism. The racism in the language used in his campus newspaper, The Kentucky Kernel, led Watkins to begin writing columns himself. In his work, he challenged the racially divisive foundations of his campus. Watkins also battled with the university president at the time, Charles Wethington III, referring to him as "Chuck" and claiming that he was racially insensitive and unqualified to be a campus president.
    • Syracuse University [ edit ] After leaving the University of Kentucky, Watkins spent a year at the University of Rochester, then eventually transferred to Ohio State University to finish his PhD.
    • Working under Ren(C) M. Stulz, David Hirshleifer, and Andrew Karolyi, Watkins finished his PhD at Ohio State University. His first academic position was with Syracuse University.
    • Career [ edit ] In 2004, Watkins completed his first book, Everything You Ever Wanted to Know about College'--A Guide for Minority Students. The book was a success and began his work in public scholarship. "I wrote this book for all the young kids like me who were told they can't go to college," said Watkins.[citation needed ]
    • A few months later, Watkins created his second book, What if George Bush were a Black Man?, a satirical discussion of President George W. Bush and what he perceives as the presence of white privilege in America. Watkins explores the criminal justice system, the educational system, and the economic systems of America, using statistics and anecdotes to describe likely fates for President Bush and other privileged individuals if they were poor and Black.[citation needed ]
    • Watkins' next books were Financial Lovemaking 101: Merging Assets with Your Partner in Ways that Feel Good, The Parental 411: What Every Parent should Know about Their Child in College, and Quick and Dirty Secrets of College Success: A Professor Tells It All.[citation needed ]
    • Bill O'Reilly and Juan Williams [ edit ] Watkins has an ongoing feud with Bill O'Reilly from Fox News.[11] Watkins referred to O'Reilly and Sean Hannity as "UnAmerican borderline Klansmen who graduated from the Rush Limbaugh School of Arrogant Self-righteousness".[citation needed ] During one CNN episode, after O'Reilly made controversial statements about African Americans during his visit to Sylvia's Restaurant of Harlem, Watkins referred to Juan Williams as "Bill O'Reilly's happy little Negro", in reference to Williams' insistence that O'Reilly did nothing wrong.[citation needed ]
    • In response, Williams wrote a scathing piece about Watkins in TIME. O'Reilly spent a week on his show calling for Watkins to be fired from his post at Syracuse University. Watkins referred to O'Reilly, Hannity, and Limbaugh as "The Axis of Ignorance" for what Watkins believed were racist attacks against the Black community.[12]
    • Later in the spring of 2008, Watkins formed an online protest through his website YourBlackWorld.com. In response to Fox News criticism of Senator Barack Obama and Pastor Jeremiah Wright, Watkins asked his supporters to write to Bill O'Reilly's corporate sponsors and complain about O'Reilly's behavior.[13]
    • Watkins' protest led O'Reilly to call for Watkins to be fired and to seek interviews with the Chancellor of Syracuse University, Nancy Cantor.[14] He also sent reporters to question Cantor and ask her why she had not challenged Watkins for his words. In his comments, O'Reilly claimed that Watkins had accused him of wanting to lynch Michelle Obama, the wife of then Senator Barack Obama, and that Watkins was "smearing the good name of Syracuse University by spreading these kinds of lies".[14]
    • O'Reilly had made the following remark about Michelle Obama and lynching on February 21, 2008: "I don't want to go on a lynching party against Michelle Obama unless there's evidence, hard facts, that say this is how the woman really feels. If that's how she really feels '-- that America is a bad country or a flawed nation, whatever '-- then that's legit." He later apologized, saying, "I'm sorry if my statement offended anybody", on his February 22, 2008 program.[15][16]
    • Challenge to the NCAA [ edit ] Watkins is an advocate for the rights of college athletes.[17] In his work as a faculty affiliate for the College Sport Research Institute at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill, Watkins has challenged the NCAA on its refusal to compensate college athletes, stating that the NCAA exploits Black families by using young men for their athletic ability and refusing to share the wealth with their families.[17]
    • In his work, Watkins has appeared on several national media outlets, including CNN, ESPN, Fox, and CBS Sports[18] explaining why athletes should be compensated. He has also challenged the tax exempt status of the NCAA, stating that the United States Congress should step in and conduct an anti-trust investigation into the NCAA.[citation needed ]
    • In op-ed pieces opposite NCAA President Myles Brand, Watkins has argued that students' rights are being violated on a regular basis by the NCAA and that a fairer compensation model should be used by the league. He cites that the revenues from NCAA March Madness exceed that of the Super Bowl and the World Series combined. Watkins also cites the fact that many coaches are made into millionaires by a system designed to keep star athletes and their families in poverty. At the conference for the North American Society for the Sociology of Sport (NASSS), Watkins cited the work of sociologist Harry Edwards during the 1968 Olympics as a springboard for Black athlete activism.[citation needed ]
    • "Like hookers kept dazed on drugs, the Black athlete is kept ignorant by his coaches so they can continue to rob him blind," said Watkins. "Coaches in college are given little incentive to increase graduation rates, and even choose the classes for the athletes. It's a sham."[citation needed ]
    • Financial activism [ edit ] Through his position at Syracuse University and YourBlackWorld.com, Watkins also provides regular financial advice to a largely African American audience. He argues that African Americans should consider their financial independence to be part of their spiritual and social independence. He also argues that African Americans should find a way to "own the land on which you stand", in order to be truly liberated in America.
    • BET and Lil Wayne [ edit ] Watkins has been highly critical of hip-hop, Black Entertainment Television and rap artist Lil Wayne. After reading the lyrics to Wayne's song, "We Be Steady Mobbin'", Watkins said that he was "ditching Lil Wayne completely" and that Wayne had "positioned himself as an enemy of the black community" who can be linked to "the holocaust occurring within the black community today". He has also said that Black Entertainment Television has an agenda similar to that of the Ku Klux Klan.[19]
    • Adidas and the "Slave Shoes" [ edit ] Watkins slammed the sportsgear firm Adidas for its JS Roundhouse Mid shoe created with a shackle design. In an op-ed, Watkins dubbed the design as "slave shoes". Before canceling the shoe, Adidas wrote a statement in support of the designer and the design, indicating: the shoe "is nothing more than the designer Jeremy Scott's outrageous and unique take on fashion and has nothing to do with slavery." Civil Rights leader Rev. Jesse Jackson agreed with Watkins, stating: "The attempt to commercialize and make popular more than 200 years of human degradation, where blacks were considered three-fifths human by our Constitution is offensive, appalling and insensitive".[20][21][22]
    • Russell Simmons and The War On Drugs [ edit ] Watkins joined hip-hop mogul Russell Simmons to co-author a letter urging President Barack Obama to put an end to Ronald Reagan's War on Drugs. The letter acquired more than 175 signatures from celebrities, activists, business and thought leaders, and scholars. Simmons and Watkins outlined specific programs the president could enforce to put an end to the War on Drugs, including supporting the Youth Prison Reduction through Opportunities, Mentoring, Intervention, Support, and Education (Youth PROMISE) Act; forming a panel to review requests for clemency that come to the Office of the Pardon Attorney; and increasing transitioning programs for released inmates. Following the release of the letter, President Obama declared an end of the War on Drugs with strategies to treat addictions and diverting non-violent drug offenders into treatment instead of prisons.[23][24][25][26]
    • Mountain Dew; Tyler, The Creator; and Lil Wayne [ edit ] Watkins criticized Mountain Dew for approving what he dubbed to be "the most racist commercial in history", created by Tyler, The Creator. He also slammed the beverage company for paying rapper Lil Wayne a lucrative endorsement deal following his derogatory lyrics about Civil Rights icon Emmett Till. As a result of a call for the ad to be pulled and calls to be made to Clear Channel by the Mamie Till Mobley Foundation as well as a petition created by other activists and spearheaded by Reena Walker, Mountain Dew was forced to pull the series of commercials created by Tyler, the Creator and pull the plug on Lil Wayne's lucrative endorsement deal. Watkins and Tyler, the Creator engaged in an exchange of Twitter messages, in which Watkins stated he had an "altered perspective" after listening to Tyler, the Creator's music. Media outlets ran with Watkins' statement, claiming he had recanted his initial stance. Watkins later clarified the nature of his Tweet in a YouTube video, stating he does not approve of the commercial.[27][28][29]
    • Controversies [ edit ] Watkins drew controversy on Twitter after condemning Kamala Harris for marrying a white man despite having attended an HBCU,[30] and later for making comments about singer Lizzo that were widely interpreted as fat-shaming.[31]
    • References [ edit ] ^ a b c d e "Unity Dinner featuring Dr. Boyce Watkins". Kulone.com. 2010 . Retrieved February 27, 2011 . ^ a b "Barbara Jordan Institute: Distinguished Affiliated Scholars". Texas Southern University. Archived from the original on May 27, 2010 . Retrieved February 8, 2011 . ^ "Dr. Boyce Watkins: Research Publications". Archived from the original on July 23, 2011 . Retrieved February 8, 2011 . ^ "College Sport Research Institute: Members" . Retrieved February 8, 2011 . ^ Watkins, Boyce D. (December 20, 2006). "On Government Programs that Increase Small Firms' Access to Capital". Journal of Small Business Management. 45: 133''136. doi:10.1111/j.1540-627X.2007.00203.x. ^ Du, Ding & Watkins, Boyce (2007). "When competing momentum hypotheses really do not compete: How the sources of momentum profits change through time". Journal of Economics and Business. 59 (2): 130''143. doi:10.1016/j.jeconbus.2006.04.003 . Retrieved February 27, 2011 . CS1 maint: uses authors parameter (link) ^ Zahn, Paula (July 30, 2007). Investing and risk-seeking habits of wealthy black male athletes (YouTube Video) . Cable News Network, Turner Broadcasting System, Inc . Retrieved February 8, 2011 . ^ "theGrio Team". theGrio. NBC Universal . Retrieved February 8, 2011 . ^ The Coaches. "Dr. Boyce Watkins". The Invested Life. Archived from the original on October 3, 2010 . Retrieved February 27, 2011 . CS1 maint: uses authors parameter (link) ^ Watkins, Dr. Boyce, PhD (June 5, 2010). "CNN Asks Why Black Men Are Not Graduating From College". Black Voices . Retrieved February 27, 2011 . CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link) ^ "Did Bill O'Reilly Doom a Tenure Bid?". Inside Higher Ed. May 18, 2009 . Retrieved September 10, 2010 . ^ Watkins, Boyce (March 23, 2010). "Rush Limbaugh Back Pedals on Pledge to Leave the Country". AOL Black Voices . Retrieved October 21, 2010 . ^ "Juan Williams lost his credibility a long time ago". Your Black World. Archived from the original on July 23, 2008 . Retrieved February 27, 2011 . ^ a b O'Reilly, Bill (May 12, 2008). "The O'Reilly Factor". Foxnews.com. ^ "Bill O'Reilly Apologizes For Michelle Obama 'Lynching' Remark". Huffington Post. February 22, 2008 . Retrieved February 27, 2011 . ^ "O'Reilly's Ironic Blunder With Michelle Obama". Salem News. February 22, 2008 . Retrieved February 27, 2011 . ^ a b "DR. BOYCE: March Madness is a Billion Dollar Sweatshop". News One - For Black America. March 3, 2010 . Retrieved February 27, 2011 . ^ Watkins, Dr. Boyce (November 7, 2009). "Editorial: Black Men Continue oo Get Pimped by the NCAA". Hip Hop Wired . Retrieved February 27, 2011 . ^ "Syracuse professor Dr. Boyce Watkins compares BET to Ku Klux Klan". Syracuse.com/news. Archived from the original on July 28, 2013 . Retrieved April 24, 2016 . ^ "Adidas Releases New Slave Shoes with Shackles and All". YourBlackWorld.net. June 2012. ^ "Adidas 'slavery' shoe withdrawn as shackles raise hackles". Inquisitr.com. ^ "Shackle Shoes Cancelled By Adidas After Uproar". Inquisitr.com. ^ Simmons, Russell. "The War on Drugs Is a War on America! Time to End It!". Huffington Post. ^ "Dr. Boyce Watkins and Russell Simmons Seek to Rebuild Families by Ending the Mass Incarceration Epidemic". YourBlackWorld.net. March 18, 2013. ^ "#EndTheWarOnDrugs". GlobalGrind.com. March 18, 2013. ^ "Obama Makes Major Moves To End The War On Drugs! (DETAILS)". GlobalGrind.com. April 24, 2013. ^ "Dr. Boyce Watkins speaks to Tyler the Creator about the Mountain Dew situation". YouTube. ^ "Mountain Dew Releases Arguably the Most Racist Commercial in History". YourBlackWorld.net. April 2013. ^ "Exclusive: Tyler, the Creator Talks Mountain Dew Controversy: 'It's Not Gonna Change My Art in Any Way ' ". Billboard. ^ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/02/kamala-harris-didnt-lie-about-listening-snoop-dogg/582982/ ^ https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/27/entertainment/lizzo-fat-shaming-doctor-trnd/index.html External links [ edit ] Official website
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    • LeBron James, the 2020 NBA Finals MVP, will host former President Barack Obama on his talk show, "The Shop." REUTERS/Larry Downing
    • A new episode of "The Shop: Uninterrupted" featuring former President Barack Obama will debut on HBO tonight at 9 p.m. ET."The Shop" is a talk show hosted by NBA star LeBron James, having welcomed guests like actor Chadwick Boseman and NFL quarterback Patrick Mahomes earlier this year. The episode will be available for free on HBO Max from October 31 to November 28; the service normally costs $14.99 per month.HBO Max and HBO cable subscribers can watch the episode as soon as it airs; every episode of "The Shop" is available to stream on HBO Max.For detailed impressions on HBO Max, check out our full HBO Max review here.Former President Barack Obama will appear on a special episode of LeBron James's HBO show "The Shop: Uninterrupted" to discuss the importance of voting, the 2020 election, and America's growing racial justice movement. The episode will premiere on HBO tonight at 9 p.m. ET, and be available to watch for free on HBO Max from October 31 to November 28.
    • Obama shared a preview of his socially distanced conversation with James on Twitter, along with a link to More Than A Vote, an organization created by Black athletes to help people figure out how to properly cast their ballot in this year's election.
    • James reportedly contacted Obama earlier this summer after the NBA players held a work stoppage in protest of police violence. The former president advised players to continue the season and lobby for the NBA to make team arenas around the country into polling locations for the coming election.
    • James began hosting "The Shop" on HBO in 2018; so far this year's guests have included the late Chadwick Boseman, who died of cancer in August, and Super Bowl MVP Patrick Mahomes. Every episode of the show is available to stream on HBO Max, which costs $14.99 per month.
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  • Why Democrats shouldn't panic (yet) about Black and Latino voter turnout - Vox
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    • On Friday, a mere four days before Election Day, Bloomberg ran an article that seemed designed to give Democrats a heart attack. ''Senior officials on Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden's campaign are increasingly worried about insufficient Black and Latino voter turnout in key states like Florida and Pennsylvania,'' the piece began.
    • It then warned that, despite record turnout throughout the country, turnout among certain minority groups lags behind white people in important states. ''In Florida, half of Latino and Black registered voters have not yet voted but more than half of White voters have cast ballots,'' Bloomberg reporter Tyler Pager wrote. He added that ''in Pennsylvania, nearly 75% of registered Black voters have not yet voted.''
    • A day later, the Associated Press published a piece suggesting that Democrats have less reason to worry. ''So far, about 9% of the early vote has been cast by African-Americans, about on par with the 10% of the electorate Black voters made up in 2016,'' the AP reported. It also pointed to states like North Carolina and Georgia, where the percentage of early ballots cast by Black voters roughly tracks with the share of African Americans in the state's overall population.
    • So what's actually going on here? One possible answer is that the stories told by Bloomberg and the AP aren't necessarily in tension. It's possible that Black and Latino turnout lags in Florida and Pennsylvania, but Black turnout is keeping pace in North Carolina and Georgia. (It's also worth noting that there are some indications that Biden is underperforming among Latino voters relative to 2016 nominee Hillary Clinton, even as he is overperforming among white people.)
    • It is likely that the raw numbers in the Bloomberg article are accurate '-- but that's not necessarily a reason for Democrats to panic. Many experts anticipated that, at this point in the election, white turnout would exceed turnout among certain voters of color because white voters are more likely to cast their ballot by mail.
    • As Myrna P(C)rez, an expert on voting rights and voter suppression with the Brennan Center, told the House Judiciary Committee last June, ''there has historically been a racial and age disparity in the use of vote by mail.'' And there is at least some evidence that this gap continued to exist during the Covid-19 pandemic.
    • ''As of May 3,'' P(C)rez told the Judiciary Committee, ''26.6% of White registered voters in Georgia had requested mail ballots for the June 9 primary, while just 18.5% of Black voters and 12% of Latino voters had done so.''
    • P(C)rez's view was echoed by Dave Wasserman, an elections expert at the Cook Political Report, who tweeted in response to the Bloomberg report that ''polling has told us all along that Black/Latino Dems are more skeptical of [voting by mail] than white Dems.''
    • But all signs point to absolutely massive turnout in the 2020 election. In 2016, about 138 million Americans cast a ballot in that year's general election. By contrast, over 90 million voters have already cast a ballot in the 2020 election, according to University of Florida professor Michael McDonald's US Elections Project.
    • That means that, days before Election Day, about two-thirds as many voters have voted in the 2020 election as those who cast a ballot in 2016. In some states, such as Texas, 2020 turnout already exceeds the total turnout in 2016.
    • According to McDonald, just under two-thirds of the over 90 million ballots already cast were mail ballots. So, while early in-person ballots do play a significant role in this election '-- nearly 33 million people have voted early and in person '-- the bulk of voters who have already cast a ballot have done so by mail. And white voters are likely to be overrepresented among this group.
    • None of this means that Democrats, who typically rely on a multiracial coalition to elect their candidates, can relax. Those running for public office would always prefer to have tens of millions of votes already cast in their favor rather than rely on people turning out to the polls in the future. And many election analysts point to reduced turnout among African Americans for Hillary Clinton in 2016 compared to Obama's winning coalition in 2008 as one reason for her loss.
    • If many Black and Latino voters plan to wait until Election Day to cast their ballot, the presidential election could turn on how many of them actually show up. And many voters of color are likely to be forced to wait in long lines on Election Day, in part because several key states have closed polling places in Black and brown neighborhoods.
    • But a ballot cast on Election Day counts no more and no less than a ballot cast in advance. If Black and Latino voters do turn out, Democrats do not need to worry if these voters decided not to vote by mail.
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  • With early voting underway in Florida, Democrats worry about Black and Latino support. - The New York Times
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    • Elections | With early voting underway in Florida, Democrats worry about Black and Latino support.With turnout the key to victory in Florida, some Democrats have expressed concern about a lack of enthusiasm from Black and Latino voters.
    • Carlos Amado shows Isabel Lui where to drop her ballot in Miami-Dade County, where early voting ends on Sunday. Credit... Marta Lavandier/Associated Press As the sun set on the C. Blythe Andrews Jr. Public Library in Tampa on Friday evening, a steady stream of mostly Black voters trickled in, hoping to cast their ballots four days before Election Day.
    • For Democrats, the question of what turnout looks like at early voting sites like this one is a crucial factor in their prospects for winning back Florida, an elusive battleground state. They hope to offset what is expected to be significant Republican turnout on Election Day, and they are counting on strong turnout from Democratic voters of color, as well as from white progressives and white moderates who have rejected the Republican Party in the Trump era.
    • But at a time when turnout has been especially high in heavily Republican counties, some Democrats have raised concerns about turnout so far among some Black and Latino voters in Florida who tend to support their party.
    • While there are signs that Joseph R. Biden Jr., the Democratic nominee, has cut into the traditional Republican advantage with senior citizens, there is also evidence that he is struggling with some more conservative-leaning Latino constituencies in Florida. Democrats also worry about his standing with Black and Hispanic men in particular.
    • At the Tampa library early Friday evening, while voters entered and exited at a quick clip and some dropped off ballots, there did not appear to be a line. Some of the voters on hand also did not appear especially enthused about Mr. Biden, though many said they were voting for him.
    • Antonio Payne, 48, said he would probably vote for him in part because he believed that President Trump was a racist.
    • Mr. Payne said he was voting for the first time after a ballot measure restored voting rights to people who had been convicted of a felony, like he once was. But he also expressed reservations about Mr. Biden, noting his work on the 1994 Crime Bill, which many experts now associate with mass incarceration.
    • ''I was in that situation, and I've seen the effect it took on people and their families,'' said Mr. Payne, a mechanic.
    • He added that he hoped Mr. Biden would ''do a better job than Donald Trump.''
    • Barbara Turner, 48, was not so sure he would.
    • ''To me it's, who's going to get the job done?'' Ms. Turner, who works in customer service, said. ''Sometimes they say the word 'Democrat' and it automatically means it's for the Black people. But that's not true.''
    • Would she support Mr. Trump?
    • ''Who knows,'' she said, as she walked in to vote.

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  • more facts with Adam Curry for November 2 2020 This is episode number 53. Slide into your podcast app just before the election in Austin in Northern Virginia. It's Adam and Mo Mo Mo Mo How you doing? I'm doing well. Adam, How about yourself? Yeah, I'm doing great man. It says cold here actually can in Texas freezing. I think it was cold as balls here too. I think they do that, you know, they throw on the weather machine. Like, let's face it. This is real voter suppression. You know, let's make it cold. And rainy. Like no one want to go out and vote. Yeah, the weather has been nasty here. But we're making it through. All right. You have a trick or treaters this year at your house? No, um, well actually houses out my area kind of far. Not too far, but not suburban style. But not a lot of trigger treatment from a lot of friends I'll talk to then their neighborhoods were dead. And my wife wasn't letting the kids go out. So they kind of had a house party. Halloween house. Halloween house party. Okay, that's nice. Yeah. Yeah, man, how things change? Well, a lot of things could change one way or the other in anywhere from 48 hours to 48 days. I guess. We have no, no idea how it's gonna go down. I remember 2000 I mean, 2000. It took what three weeks? I think three, maybe 234 weeks before they finally figured out the hanging chads in Florida. I mean, forget about this stuff. But that was weird, too. Yeah, I if I was a betting man, I would think you would go something like 2000 more than last year? We're gonna drag it out. Either way. Yeah. Unless it's like some kind of crazy landslide one way or the other. But then that would also be questions. Yeah, who knows? Who knows? I know, man. Cool. But I will say one thing before you spin that wheel. All right. South is definitely gonna change after tomorrow. Definite change. Okay, you want to elaborate or we don't know what we don't. We don't know what but there's definitely things will not be the same after tomorrow. Well, if anything, I hope that people look at how their news media is providing them with information. I think that's the one thing I'd like that's the only thing I've ever cared about for the past 13 years. It's one of the only reasons that this show exists is because this type of this type of message doesn't get out otherwise. So yeah, exactly. Then we're gonna do it again for you right now. Here we go. Let's hold up that we have a topic we're gonna talk about today. I have some thoughts on where that wheel stops. Nobody knows. Except, of course, Mo, who was put the sermon together for today. And the topic for mo facts with Adam Curry. 53 is what do you have to lose? Yes. Okay. I got you. Hit me Mo, this. This is the question. There's going to be answered after today. Okay. If it goes Trump side, we'll see what we what do we have to lose? But it was this question that kind of said, a lot of things that were brewing off into motion. And we're gonna go back, this is one of the shows. And tell people every since Episode One, we've been saying this. And if the media were to listen to podcasters, for lack of a better word, good luck, they wouldn't know what was going to know. They wouldn't know what was going to go on over a year ago. But they didn't. And we've been saying, This is not a victory lap. But I would like to re go over some things in more detail. Because after today, they won't be as pertinent. So that's that's what I want to do at the show. So this is also kind of a marking down some points in history so that we have something to go back to and remind ourselves. Yes, and then how we got to this point A up mean up in the last year, but actually the last, I want to say maybe five years. Cuz this thing is brewing. It's been brewing for a while. Yeah, exactly. Yes. So I want to go over what was what was under the surface, where are we at? How do we get there? And back to where we at now? All right. If that makes this? No, I think it makes perfect sense. And what you're obviously talking about is we have a strong surge of black men who are doing who are looking to vote? more conservative? Also brown men, if I can just keep it in the color scheme? It seems like we've got Latinos also and Latino men also leaning this way now.
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  • It seems that way. It seems it seems that way. Just from CNN, CNN is saying that this is happening in Florida so that that's where I'm not I'm getting this from. Yeah, every. They haven't been listening. We've been saying it. They've been listening to the pollsters and the political talking heads and everybody else. And they never took the time to say what are these people want these people that we need their vote? What are they asking for? So I guess we can go and dive right into some, some blackmail voters say one. Welcome back to CBS This Morning as the 2020 presidential campaign enters its final phase, racial tensions and how to end them are a major issue. During last night's debate, both candidates pitch themselves as the best option for minority voters, xenophobe, Tim Scott, a great senator from South Carolina, he came in with this incredible idea for opportunity zones. It's one of the most successful programs, people don't talk about it. tremendous investment is being made constantly been moving the needle further and further to inclusion, not exclusion. This is the first president have come along and says that's the end of that, we're not going to do that anymore. We have to provide for
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  • now, here's a relevant fact, according to Pew Research Center, only 54% of eligible black men voted in 2016. And when it comes to identifying as Democrats, black men are less likely to do so than black women 77% to 87%.
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  • Romney through the numbers again, Mo because now I'm kind of confused, what percentage of vote etc that we have. And I heard 8777 is this, this just to help me understand that is that is of voters. So you have turnout? Right? So all of all people have one group or just in general, all people? What percentage of that turns out? Okay, they may take that turnout, and have this that subset, and then divide up? who voted Republican, Democrat? independent? Right. Got it. So the turnout number is the number that we need to watch. I'm watching Mm hmm. Because I don't think it'd be very much movement, say from democrat to Republican, no, this, this can only come from people who have been on the sidelines previously, everyone else is probably stuck in their rut. Right. Or you could say, people voted last last time that Donald Trump's not the Boogey Man or been in the bad things that happened that they expect to happen. Yeah. And so they're like, you know what, I'm out of it. And that would drop the voter turnout number down. And we're going to go over that from our very first show. But I wanted to show the full circle, that we've been talking about this, and this is from the most recent report from CBS This Morning. But if you notice how they moved through the clip, it says racial tensions, and then minority voters. But clearly, the title of the clip is some black voters. Yeah, but let's just call them minority. Well, because they don't want to let us know the power that we wield. But they want to be able to have the conversation. And they don't want to lead on that you just have what you highlighted before the clip is just not this minority group, quote unquote, minority group that's taking having different thoughts. So they like keep the brown man from the black man because they might start talking. Wait a minute, I thought they lived in the same community. That's the same zip code, how are you going to enforce that? They may just wind up talking to each other. Yeah, anyway, if you notice the way they parsed it is black man, you haven't heard anything about the brown man. And I to be honest with you, this is just my personal opinion. I think this spearmint went wrong with the Hispanic vote. Okay, I thought they could create the Hispanic vote in the same model that they did in the black vote. Whereas we can have them voting democrat for you know, 100 years if we give them something. Well, what what, what, what what I see is I see the exact same thing I see amongst black men. I see Hispanic men, same thing that you know, kind of a testosterone thing going on. That's what I'm seeing at a greater number in the brown community compared to the black community because I think it's something like 6065 3564 Yeah. Yeah. So they didn't have that everlasting guilt trip that they could run on the brown vote that they could the black vote right now. That's why they haven't a pivot back around to the black vote like, yeah, we know we've forgot about you and we ignored you. We were over here in the zip code next door and the brown community. were black you back here in the black community. It's so lame Mo. It's so terribly lame. And it's amazing how people of color has been. I think it's like out of Vogue. I guess that would be the but yeah, it's not cool anymore. You don't even hear people of color mentioned or that term. Many people as I like to say no, because it's been. It's actually the negative term now are viewed as a negative term. So I wanted to point that out what's going on here, but they still have to be careful with the verbiage that they use, and you hear racial minority.
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  • Things of that nature.
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  • Black men have increasingly become a coveted target of both campaigns in the run up to Election Day show up.
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  • And Camilla Harris,
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  • Joe Biden's policies destroyed millions of black lives. President Trump and former Vice President Biden defended their record on race during Thursday night's debate.
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  • Nobody has done more for the black community. And that'll Trump criminal justice reform, prison reform opportunity zones, we have to provide for economic opportunity, better education, better health care, better access to schooling, better access to opportunity to borrow money to start businesses,
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  • both campaigns have unveiled specific plans appealing to the estimated 30 million eligible African American voters 13% of black male voters supported President Trump in 2016, more than three times the rate of black women.
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  • What you have here is all you heard and including yourself for maybe 2019 is black women, black women, black women coming out of 2018 midterms. It was like black women are going to save the day. But if you have all the vote, there's not much more you can get a 90 95% voting Democrat. Somewhere along the way somebody made a miscalculation, or gross oversight the same. How do we get this number of men who don't vote? We talked about it, I think half black men don't vote. That's pretty huge number. And then you have 13% of the vote. turnout for Trump, which was an uptick from the previous Republican candidates from 2016, no, 2012 and 2008.
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  • withholding the vote works.
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  • The quote unquote tangibles that are being discussed, or if you want to say I'm putting tangibles in air quotes. Yeah, several air quotes. But that was put on the table by the vote being withheld.
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  • It was like how do we get this
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  • large number of people that may not participate into the game, when you value your commitment, I make a vow to one party I'm going to vote for you regardless. They don't have to offer you anything. I noticed that I was like a lot of rehash. But I'm saying this to say this is what we've been doing here. The the discussion that we've been having conversations we've been having every week began on this notion, because this next clip is the very first clip, very first show that we talked about. And this is a go over the numbers that you discussed when you could play it after you finish speaking on. Yeah, what I what I was going to say is the only thing that's interesting is that we see record turnout. Now record turnout in Texas is interesting. But for for pre Election Day pre early voting. Now that can mean a couple of things, it can mean that a lot of people decided to vote one way or the other despite thinking they were not going to vote. So you know, with hold the vote seems to be less likely. Or of course, there's a shitload of cheating going on. And people are voting three or four times. I mean, it's it's this is one of the most fascinating election cycles to be a part of, because we really just don't know. And all we have is confusing messages from the polls. So indeed, going back. well over a year ago, this was in very first show and this was what set me at least on the journey with mo fax in early voting, you can actually tell who is voting not which way they voted but who's doing it. in states like North Carolina, the black vote is down 16% from 2012. Listen to President Obama urging black voters get out there and vote please. Put a little pressure on you. But the fate of the Republic rests on your shoulders. The fate of the world is teetering. And you North Carolina
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  • to make sure
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  • that we push it in the right direction. If Hillary wins North Carolina she wins when I said the fate of the Republic grats on you. I wasn't joking. That pretty striking stuffer joining us now Stacy Washington. Stacy on the right. I think I can I say this. I'm looking at a headline in the financial times out of Britain today says Obama rallying cry to black voters, as poll showed Trump making gains. Now, it seems to me that maybe black voters hold the key to the entire election. Yeah, maybe? Yeah, exactly. Well, let's just measure up for a second. Joe Biden, if if if you don't vote for me, you ain't black. President Trump, what do you got to lose? I mean, that's almost an easy one. And there's something that I miss from this clip. And that's why I like going back to the throwback clips because you kind of focused on one thing and a clip, what you don't hear other
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  • information
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  • that's pertinent to now if you listen to what he says. He said, You can't tell who they voted for. But you can tell who came out. Yes. So that goes for now. Like you were talking about all the directive setting early voting, right. Have we heard have we heard I haven't really heard any of who is coming out to vote not. I mean, yeah, they say, go ahead. Can you play like the first 20 seconds of that? Cuz I want to hear exactly what he said. I hate to go back. Very short. What he said to now, in early voting, you can actually tell who is voting not which way they voted, but who's doing it. Right. Okay. So if that number is down, they know it now. Right? How can we don't know what though? How come that telling us because that you know, that embryos? Now that number, that number must be messed up. Yeah, that number must be so you mean, the total number of African Americans to come out to come out at all? Yeah, yes. Yes. The turnout number they know that now.
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  • Crap, man. They can't send us information.
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  • Well, the fact that you're not hearing about it, yeah. Tells me and their way they're ratcheting up. The the insults, brow beating the shaming, right. I kind of know how this numbers going. If it was going in your favor. Yeah, you'd be touting? Yeah. And there's no need to shame people because it's like, Okay, are we getting the numbers that we need to hit? We're doing good. Okay, I have I have Louisiana just because I'm searching around for it. As of November first, a little over 3 million registered voters. 63%. White, that came out. And 31%. Black. And that's Louisiana. movement in early voting. So 31% 61%. That's still on talking about the whole pie. It's kind of hard to tell the voter turnout number. But what I'm saying is that the fact that they're not talking about it is that they're using the clearly names that they're not happy with what they're seeing. Obviously, when they're talking about it. I have a clip. We'll get to that in a minute. But just the sheer reaction, it seems like desperation and you out, look at it. Through this lens. Democrats are more likely to vote early. Trump is telling his people wait to go out to the polls on voting day. Mm hmm. So if your number is looking even a little funny is like wait to this, quote, red wave comes gonna be worse tomorrow. Yeah, exactly. It's gonna get worse. So I wanted to go through that. And now we can move into what we talked about from the brothers be voting. Yes, Episode 49. Yeah. Just about the numbers on the blackmail voter
  • 19:57
  • in general.
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  • All right. We are Just a month away from Election Day, and it is going to be a big one. Whether you vote early by mail or in person, every single vote counts. But currently in the US Listen to this. About half, half a black men who are registered to vote, have not done so in the last five consecutive elections. And that's what the black male voter project is working to change tonight. we're joined live by Mondale Robinson with the black male voter project. Mondale, thank you for being with us. Tell me about the mission of this project and why it's taking on added significance this election year. Yeah, so thank you for having me. I want to say that I'm actually I think it's been important a long time, unfortunately, because people have not prioritized the needs, and ideas and issues that are important to black men, it just seems like this year is extremely important. And I would argue that, like me and participate in an election is better for everybody, especially those who make up the lower rungs of society. Because when we vote, we vote for issues that better everybody, not just a select group of folks on the mission of black male voter project is one that is extremely simple. It is our job to create more super voters that are black man meaning brothers who vote every election cycle. And we're working hard to do that, without traditional campaigning and introduce a new way of campaigning called BM ep editori approach. We basically use Maslow's hierarchy of needs and behavior psychology to change the psyche of black men about voting. This is him wanting to change our psychology. Yes. And I psyche. You're not thinking, right? You're not thinking, right, man, you're doing it all wrong. And this goes to show you they're hiring the wrong people. They're not getting the right people in the room, to tell them the truth. They're getting people in the room is telling them what they want to hear. Well, that's what consultants do. That's exactly what political consultants, business managers, that's, that's what the professional class does. Sometimes they get lucky they win. But you know, I don't even know who's running the show over the Democratic Party. Do you have any idea who the leadership is anymore? No. Cuz when Podesta went down, I would say is, whoever's running the what's the like the squad. They have a they have a big influence. Yeah, I mean, it's very, it's very fractured. And what we saw here,
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  • the black vote,
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  • consisting of the black, female and male vote was the base for the Democratic Party. And then they say, okay, we can bring these other groups and add it to that, and then we can get to the number that we want to get to right. But when that fractured when that fracture happened within, enter the black vote between men and women, that destabilize everything, Mm hmm. And it happened with Trump. And Trump knew this gone. I mean, he understood this, that it's a group that we never talked to, and that's why I led to that, what do you have to lose? Because that was his? That was his pitch. That was his pitch pitch, like, what do you have? Honestly, if you just stay at home? What do you have to lose? And I want to explain this to people again, it's not lost on me and other people like me. If you stay at home, and you're normally a voter, that's a plus one for Donald Trump. Right? Because you're taking out the board. Now, if he can flip a voter list, you know, that consistently votes from democrat to republican? That's a plus two. Right. So his defense is his best office, and that's why they call it voter suppression. Exactly. He's saying, Yeah, don't worry about it. What do you got to lose? That's voter suppression right there in a nutshell. Yeah. That's a good way to look at it. That is that is the voter suppression. It's not the now you do have the long lines. But I will say that on the democrats part, why don't you get more polling places open? Right. It's possible. So I'll put that on them and not a republic. Why don't they just make every every Planned Parenthood into a polling place and be on all the minority? It's just a thought everybody. That is that is that?
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  • There is one in every
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  • black community. Now we're going to get back to the CBS in the morning. Excuse me, CBS This Morning to wrap up with the following clip from the report.
  • 24:44
  • stumping for Biden in Philadelphia this week, former President Barack Obama made an appeal to black men. What I've
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  • consistently tried to communicate during this year is particularly when I'm talking to young brothers Acknowledge to them. I gotta stop for a second. When he says yes. Talk when he gets into code there, and particularly talking to young brothers. I mean, don't you go like, yeah, it would be like me saying that he's not the same.
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  • Actually, you've done more work.
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  • For me, okay, I just want to check the barometer here. Yes. Consistently try to communicate during this year is, particularly when I'm talking to young brothers, is to acknowledge to them that government and voting alone isn't going to change everything. I know, you guys say that. She talked about voting and importance of voting, but there are a lot of black men who don't. And that's why we're here tonight, having this tough conversation to encourage each other, that there's power with fear. And nothing's going to change if we all take the back seat.
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  • Now, all of those men told me that they have or will vote and really in these final days of both campaigns are ramping up their efforts to try to force reach more voters and particularly of color the Biden campaign has launched a barber shop style series to engage black men and they recently dispatched surrogates, like magic johnson while the Trump campaign has opened up more than a dozen offices in urban communities. Gail,
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  • no. Wait a minute.
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  • athletes. I thought you had to get the brightest and best minds, not athletes and entertainers. Oh, you see how they do this? He's on our side. It's good. I mean, we can match John's He's fine. But if you know if Herschel Walker goes toe to toe
  • 26:50
  • Tim Scott no good. No, Good.
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  • I'm glad you brought picked that up. Obama slipping back in the code. He hasn't talked to us for the last four years. Brothers. He hasn't said anything directly towards the brothers, young brothers young brothers, by the way, not just brothers, the young brothers. And then he wants to weasel his way out. I say, Well, you know, government can't do everything alone. That is the cop out to say this is why I didn't do anything for cars, cars. You know, he's kind of explaining it away. But it's not gonna work. But because he's seen him do what he wanted to do for people that he wanted to do it for. Exactly. And when he said, so this is what I'm picking up on. When he says, and especially I'm talking to the young brothers. In my mind, that's he saying that for white people? Because the young brothers Tell me not every single young brother sees through that and go, okay. I mean, isn't that an instant turnoff? Or is there still a percentage that that that really believes the myth Obama? That number is small, getting smaller by the day. Okay. You know, you still have those Obama bots out there that just Well, he didn't have this house in the Senate or he had to be the president. Right, everybody? Right. But he's not a Doss. I mean, come on. It's so obvious this guy's he's acted as if when he says that he's phony, it's no different than, than Hillary Clinton, you know, with her, I don't feel would always know tired. No more. Or Alexandria ocasio Cortez, I mean, it's sickening. And he's not talking to the brothers that say what needs to be done. I was talking on our behalf. If I was in that position, or you are a Doss. man had been in that position. He should use his soapbox to say, hey, right. Look, look, let me be clear. Here's the deal. This is what they're going through Democrat Party, this is what you need to do you want their vote and fee came about and that way it'd be different. But to explain it, the failures of the Democratic Party and politics as a whole to say, well, it can't do everything for you, and we still need your vote. And just try to lump you know, everything into this, you know, kind of like, keep doing what you've been doing. Mm hmm. Now he was in Philadelphia when he gave this speech that would that was quoted there. Yeah, at the same time in Philadelphia, violence is erupting. For the last two nights, protesters have marched through Philadelphia, while looters have run unchecked. The anger and violence fueled by the death of Walter Wallace Jr. Today, stores were boarded up and residents picked up the pieces.
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  • This is not the way to display your anger towards what's going on.
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  • And these 30 officers have been injured. Dozens of people arrested New video shows the shocking final moments of Wallace Jr's life. Police confronted him on Monday. He had a knife and a history of mental illness. The two officers fired 14 times. Police a Wallace Jr. Refuse to drop the knife. His family was watching. They say they call 911 for help for a mental health crisis. Walter Wallace senior called for answers and calm that don't condone no violent tearing up the city new stores. And all this chaos for the shooting and its aftermath comes during a heated presidential election in which Donald Trump has used images of violence and looting on American streets to motivate his supporters. a democrat run state, a Democrat run City, Philadelphia, we don't have that. We don't have it. The Republicans don't have it. There is no excuse whatsoever for the looting and the violence, none whatsoever. Residents promise the protests will continue. And you know, a friend of mine was in Philadelphia when President Obama was going to be there to speak. And he was sending me pictures. You know, this was supposed to be a speech. It was all about, you know, the brothers. I think the young brothers is who he was talking to, and maybe some systems. And he was showing me these pictures. It was VIP invite only the public couldn't attend. And he said look at this is his hall, white people. Yeah, it's it was completely disingenuous the whole Obama thing, and then you've got to ask, you know, someone came along and smashed the windows and let the third wave come out again. Yeah, and it's to this point is self activating. Yeah. You don't even need the the the umbrella people. Yeah. The agent provocateurs. You don't need those anymore. It's just that. Okay, cop shooting happens. unchecked rioting is okay. Right. And what that does is the good people in those neighborhoods, the business owners in those neighborhoods, speaking speaking, quote, unquote, for black people. They're not going to solve with the democrats on this. No, because they're asking, Is this what we have to look forward to for the next 48 years if the democrats and party in office? Or do they want law order? Yeah. And if you notice in there, they use the word chaos. father did which chaos magic and you can take he can do with that which you want to where I'm there with you. But it's tone deaf, because instead of Obama using his platform to come from, say, I'm saying this for the benefit of the Democratic Party, not for black people, but to come out and say, You know what, we need to be calm, you know, because you're turning off of, they want to love black people under this criminality, umbrella. And it's not the case. Now we understand that stop and frisk and the way we're policed is wrong. But if the alternative to that is unchecked, rioting, looting, having your business burned down. No one's gonna want a hard decision, and nobody wants that. And if I'm a voter, and that's my choice, the easiest way to do is stay neutral and not vote, which goes back to my original. That's another point on the board for Team Trump.
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  • See how this thing where I don't? Nobody thought this thing through with this riding and having people in industries it's not a winner, because black people, like every other group of people like to live in peace and harmony and not have a chaos, a battle, right. But but so this is my old mantra. These are the old guard. Remember, President Obama was supposed to be the internet president. And he came in and we were all jacked and excited. Like, okay, the White House is gonna have a blog. No, they didn't have a blog. They had a boring old website. Okay. Well, he's on Twitter, it's gonna be great. No, I was just press releases on Twitter. And that was not even talked about the health care website. And and, and it was the old method of communicating interview with The New York Times interview with The Washington Post, go on 60 minutes, do a round of the Sunday shows. That is how you cement the message, and what they have no experience with and honestly, Trump is flying by the seat of his pants, but he feels he understands audience, too. He started tweeting, he's like, Oh, this look at this, like I can get all this response. So now that the democrats their communication system, the elite community, I should say the globalist communication system is out of whack. Because as you say, you've got these protests, they don't have that under control that self activating. Why? Because you don't need to go on TV anymore to tell people, it's done amongst cell phones, etc. And they really don't have it under control. And they weren't expecting it, obviously.
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  • And to be honest with you, many years ago, not many years ago, but when the rioting in Baltimore happened. And the mayor, I can't remember her name. They said it was a gaffe. When she said we're gonna give them room to riot, or space to riot. I don't think that was a gaffe. I think that was the truth wanting to come out. That was the plan. perimeter room, let them burn stuff up. Let them write. And we'll use this politically for our purpose, because it seems like there's always a allow space to write every one of these situations. And it's like, how do I had to repeat that thing? And I'm sorry, I hate I don't have the clip right, offhand. But when she said that, I was like, it was a gap at the time. But looking back, I think this was their playbook of you let them get activated through rioting and the imagery of you know, unrest. But what they did was pissed off a lot of good. Black people. Sure. I'm tired of this. I'm tired of I'm tired of the cops shooting somebody 14 Times New. newsflash pissed off the white people too. It's like everyone's tired of it, for sure. No one wants to see. And this. And this is happening in the epicenter of the black vote is needed for swing state. Right. That's why I was saying every vote is not the same. Right? If you live in Philadelphia, if you live in Detroit, if you live in Dade County, and all these other places that have high population of black people. Your vote weighs more than a black border saying California and New York are these places where it's kind of like red and blue, right can make a difference for So yeah, I got it. I you can make a huge difference for the national election. And I mean, they're gonna go through some numbers later on these clips. But going back to the show, one, Fox Business News spoke on having to have the turnout. party's got to have turnout. I mean, the key in several of the big battleground states is the turnout of the African American vote is down what 16% I quoted they're in North Carolina is down 15% in Florida. With those kind of numbers. Hillary Clinton cannot win. She must have a much higher black vote to win the presidency. Am I right? Is that accurate? Which was really fun. A goes for Joe. Yeah. What's fun about that? Is that the you know, as you say, the Democratic Party's taken the the African American the black vote for granted. And it's it's to such a degree that they they actually forgot how important the black vote really was. That's how much they forgotten about the African Americans. They don't even they didn't even know how they're like, Oh, crap. Yeah, we had just been sewn up for so long. Like, we haven't really had to think about that. Have we? Oh, man. And so that's the panic, you're seeing where they
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  • they thought Obama
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  • would hold us in place. Right. When they could roll them out the last week of election cycle or the last two weeks of the election cycle like they do it black churches. I mean, what you're seeing here is what's going on the local level. Yeah, roll them out in the last couple of weeks. Mm hmm. tell you, y'all, we got to go do this. We got to win. But the problem was, the worst thing that Democrats ever did was Brock Obama went in. And let me explain. When he got in there, didn't didn't do anything. It was like, Well, if he's not gonna do it, Joe ain't gonna do it. Kamala ain't gonna do it. That kind of so it kind of made people like callous in a way that if he couldn't do it in eight years, it can't be done. So now we need to start valuing our vote. And other miscalculation that the DNC made was, well, we have this brown vote. And if we can get the give them immigration, our answer Do whatever you want to call it, or at least drag our drag them along with a carrot of amnesty or something, I promise, I promise some stuff study a study or a commission or some blue ribbon panel. Yeah, we can keep them strong, for lack of a better word on the plantation. You know, we can phase out the black vote, the black vote was meant to be phased out. That's why I said this election here is going to be Are we willing to go back
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  • and take
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  • not being a appreciate it? Are our black people gonna say, you know what, we're gonna decide the candidates based off of what they have to offer to us. And this is a huge, this is a game changer, because I keep saying this reminds me I wasn't living in. But from what I've studied a lot like 64, you have one candidate, David thinks he had the vote in the bag. And then you have another candidate, this woman to at least do gestures to put the vote back into play. And if that voter turnout number is low enough, that signals to both parties, I mean, look how much we've accomplished in the last few months of this election cycle. Now, if you have this going, in the first couple weeks of a new election cycle, people come in what plans lies to the contract with black America things that nature? Now you have a party, two parties that have to put up or shut up? Yeah, Ice Cube did a really good job with that, because he brought that to the forefront as best you could. I will say, though, as an American, it I understand I I feel after having talked with you for all this time, that not voting is isn't is a powerful way of expressing your opinion, your voice in the election. I do find it sad, because I'd rather that there will be enough. And I'm not. I don't even like the idea that we're so called two party system, which we're not, which is why I usually vote independent just to make sure we can still have independent people. But it does make me sad, that there's there is nothing that is representative enough for the black vote to actually come out in support. So to me, it's Yeah, it's a win to get away from the plantation, which I totally see how you see that. But I find it sad that there's nothing there that is representative enough. Where the the black, African Americans are going, Yeah, this is our person, you know, I'm just doesn't matter in any way. But I just want to say I find that personally quite sad. And maybe it would be better next time around. What what what, what you mean, what you have is progress? Because it seems to me to speak for black men? I mean, because I am one. Allegedly, I haven't actually seen you. So yeah, who knows. But okay, we'll take your word for it. Allegedly. Yeah. But what it has here is we're doing one party to not put a vote on the board is a is a favor to the Republican Party. I know. I know it is, but you understand what I'm saying? I'm not disputing the math. I do. But the problem is, is we have to be strategic about this. Because if you just go and give your vote to the other side, then it's like, oh, well, we done enough. And what we need to do is and I want to say this now because I know everybody said Oh, reparation, reparation, reparation. That's all you're talking about mo The reason why I say that is that needs to become our amnesty. That needs to become our Roe versus Wade either protecting or trying to take it off for whatever, the special special interest group you're in pro life pro choice. Is that thing this is the pot ago at the end of the rainbow right? To say
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  • you might not give it to us this time.
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  • But how closer will we get to each election cycle? Mm hmm. Or it may have to be done piecemeal. $500 billion at a time. That's fine. All right, put them put the money on the table. You'll see us at the polls and then the day after November 4. We'll start talking on the next deal. It's we have to be very pragmatic here it's not and the problem is is this voting has become a motion noon for my people. As you know I feel guilty. I Webster my fans voted for Trump or you know uh, you know, the democrats sanded. We voted dye in for Okay, so if your option is to be given vote or die, right, that's that's what you're being told. Yeah. Don't people trivialize that but death? Yes, one party wins powerful and we say all we're saying is give me liberty or give me death give me freedom to make a choice based not based off of guilt not based off of shame, but what the tangibles are on the table. Or, you know, if it brings the episode beat? Well, that is really not that is truly the American way that that that is the most patriotic thing you can say, give me liberty or give me death. And I understand I think what you're saying, the way I parse it is, it would be a mistake for the so called black vote to just say, Okay, what you know, these guys, no good. Here you go. Republicans, because well, then you also have known a good negotiating point, you want to have something on the upside for the next time around? I hear you. I hear you. I'm just saying like, that was good. This would be great. Yeah, exactly. It's just sad that we have to take, you know, one big step back to go one step forward. That's That's all I'm saying. And it's, maybe it's the only way to go it certainly I know. It's the way you believe. And, and we'll we'll see. We'll see what happens. I I'm still hoping Kanye gets a couple votes. Just Oh, and that's another. I mean, what Kanye is the new way of thinking. I think Kanye is going through this 2020 cycle, the same way when he went into Gucci to learn how to make quality couture clothes. Mm hmm. Now he wasn't able to do it for Gucci, or Louie or whoever. But he took that experience and rolled it and you know, $5 billion out of nowhere, so I'd not sleep euro Kanye as far as not for 20. But I like he's the kind of person he puts his mind to something. And he said it and he kind of tilt his head. And I didn't catch. I didn't capture any clips from that conversation, because I'm still digesting them. But he did want to say one thing. He said, I want to be the leader of the free, free world, even if that doesn't mean being president. Yeah. And I think you and I had a text about that. And I said, being the leader of the free world doesn't necessarily mean being the president. You don't have to be the president to be the leader of men. And maybe he could put his arm around the next presidential candidate. Right. Maybe he's building the apparatus, you know, or learning there. I mean, that's what Kanye does. He gets inside of something. And then he learns it. I mean, when he first started, I mean, just as just as a quick aside, when he first started rapping, he didn't come in as a rapper, he came as a producer, it had to learn how to rap right? When he started to donning clothes, he came in as a rapper, and learn how to design new fashion, you know, and that he mastered it. So now he's in politics. He's learning. He's, he's deconstructing it. That's the best way. Yeah. And it's and what's good is he you know, Trump has broken so many barriers and holy grounds that when when and if Kanye is ready to go ahead and give it a give it a real shot, his style of thinking and communication, what least not be rejected completely out of hand. I think people will say, Well, hold on a second. What is he actually saying? Let me stop and listen to it. You know, and he'll get better at doing that, too. And just as I think we've seen President Trump get better at communicating to it was very, very incoherent from time to time, certainly a couple years back. And the way he's mastered a rally now. Mm hmm. It was like really Herky jerky. He would either read from the teleprompter,
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  • you know and sound scripted, or sound like a madman. Oh, you know, that kind of thing. Yeah. But now he's mastered the way of, I think the way they set the teleprompter up, they give him a chunk to read. Yes, exactly. But he add lives. Yeah. For no, right, maybe two, three minutes. And then a teleprompter. He catches it back. And he reads for which is like I said, I think Kanye will have to go through something similar, but you can't just speak completely off the cuff. You have to have some kind of a guide, a guide to follow along.
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  • But he sounded very
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  • measured on the Joe Rogan on the Joe Rogan. He did he did but you know a lot of people I spoke to they said it was very hard for me to follow. I couldn't really understand and I realized that I've had you know I've had a lot of exposure to A lot of things and a good education in a Kanye as well. And having followed him for a long time. where, you know, it's tough a lot of people just go. They can't parse it, it's not in the, in the readymade bytes that they want to get. And so they just kind of let's say, it's Kanye. And that's been supported by media telling you he's nuts, etc. So it's just it's an uphill battle. But if anyone can do it, it would be Kanye. It could be Kanye. But getting back to the numbers. You were saying that you would like to see those numbers as in the in the early voting? Well, I got a clip for CNN with Dave Axelrod. And they're freaking out. Hey, David,
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  • I just want to stick with you for a second because of Florida. So there is information that the early in person vote in at least Miami Dade County, yes, which Hillary Clinton won handily, but lost the state
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  • that the republican turnout is far outpacing the democratic turnout and it is so concerning to the Congresswoman Frederica Wilson, who covers that region that she says she has been trying to sound the alarm to the Biden campaign. She says that they haven't been doing door to door canvassing because of the pandemic. They haven't invested money in the people there on the ground who know how to turn out the vote. Here is her quote to Politico I screamed, hollered, I called I lobbied from the top to the bottom. Wilson said for efforts to turn out operations started in the community, including sending written proposals to Biden's campaign and having virtual zoom meetings with his advisors. She thinks they're not listening to her.
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  • Well, I'm sure they're looking at these early vote numbers. from Florida, there is a the the one that struck my eye is that Miami Dade is much lower than the rest of the state in terms of a percentage of early voters come in. And that is a place where he has to Joe Biden has to mount a huge advantage going into Election Day. The other thing you notice, if you look deeply into these numbers, is that where the fall off is appears to be among African American.
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  • And and that is a concern.
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  • That is that is a concern? Yes. That's a bit of a problem. Who could foresee this happening? Oh, no. Let's do a podcast from time to time, you might learn something. Oh, as he said, You have Miami Dade County, this is kind of how the democrats were and I've learned this over Washington election results. You have this one little county where a one little district where the black vote is highly concentrated. And then there outside counties or districts were kind of you know, bounced it out. So they had to run these numbers up. And I saw this in 2012, whatever, like all these things will go on Trump. And as you watch overnight, it will just start slowly swing back over to the Republican side. Now going in making see one of the swing states Florida, they're not getting the turnout that they need and is where they need to build up a huge amount of his his words need to mount a huge advantage. And it's due to the black voters not coming out. And typically, you would think black voters really the one that's voting early, because they're concerned about voter suppression, just like let me get my vote in as soon as possible. Right. Whereas, as I mentioned before, Trump's telling his people to come out on voting day. So then do do well and what the way you can tell the doodoo is deep is the way that that though. The one lady was a big cover your ass like I told everybody I've been telling everybody I've been I've been screaming as loud as I can. No one's paying attention. I've been in business long enough to know. That's someone going holy crap. I don't want any of it on me. Yes, Adam. That is what you call See ya. Your rear. That's right. Because she knows that she was held Guardian over this little blue dot and this red state. And she should have rang the bell early. Of course they're gonna blame her for it. But you had to see this coming. But because no, because I'll show one. Going back again is when Obama was urging African Americans to vote even said it would take historic turnout to win. And after we have achieved historic turnout in 2008 and 2012, especially in the African American community, I will consider it a personal insult an insult to my Like I say, if this community down it's gone to activate itself in this election. You want to give me a go vote.
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  • You failing to activate activate
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  • my legacy Yeah. Community.
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  • No, no mine My my mind. This is where this is where you know he's tone deaf. Yeah. Because he won't say a person this aware will say our legacy of go out and vote those kinds of things, not my legacy and this community he would say our community, our legacy, use it as a you know, plural plural, possessive pronouns, but that's not what he did. He was like, get on vote. I told you, you know, this the tone in itself, but it's, every time I hear that clip, my blood starts to boil because the audacity of this guy. Yeah, come along and talk down to black people. And everybody of us, okay, yeah, okay, we're okay with it. You know, Obama, and you did nothing for black people while you were in. I mean, nothing, nothing symbolic. We didn't get the duck the dub Tubman. We didn't get that we didn't get these are symbolic things that he could elite voting day Ben holiday canteens? Yeah. These were simple things that he could have done to say, you know what, at least I get you Juneteenth Please, I'm a voting a national holiday. I gave you the dustman. Um, none of it. That is neglect. It's neglectful. And he is the reason you can't blame Trump. Because if it wasn't for brock obama, Trump Oh, yeah, it wouldn't. It would Trump wouldn't exist at all. But let's get back to one of the previous clips how they roll now athletes, and here is Magic Johnson and his after Joe Biden. Hello, Detroit is Magic Johnson. This is the most important election of our lifetime. And this year, Michigan will be deciding who will be our next president. There's too much at stake. To sit this one out. We need to elect Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, to bring our country together. The good news, voting has never been easier, accessible way earlier than ever before. In Detroit, there are more than 20 3040 centers across the city. They will be open seven days a week until Election day, seven days a week until Election Day. So you can register and vote in one quick stop right there. Make a plan to vote early. You can go to I will vote calm to get more information. Your vote is your voice. Please vote. Where did they record that in front of his McDonald's franchise on the highway that could have done
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  • the wind was blowing
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  • together? Does it feel like a last minute job didn't it? I knew you were gonna pick up the sound quality which is why I didn't lead you. But it's it's a you got a smartphone. Imagine can we get you to say a few words about Biden I'm telling you. It's the same. It's the same sound guys that have done so many of those Biden things. They literally do it on an iPhone
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  • is so lame.
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  • Let's look past the poor quality. Okay. It just tells me something. It just tells me something that's all but does not miss the the bigger piece of information here. He says voting has never been easier. Polls open seven days a week. 24 seven. How is that voter? Any you could register and vote in one quick stop? Mm hmm. How does that doesn't job with voter suppression. I think people have heard this voter suppression line so long that they don't they know it's always someone else. someone's getting suppressed. I'm not it's not me, but someone's getting suppressed. And what does it really even mean? But my question is the way he says it, they took it in their control to make sure whoever wanted to vote will have a place to vote. Mm hmm. So why in Georgia and Texas you have these lines around the block of four black people To vote you had a Mr juicy Paul's a Roland Martin and crying as he rode around the parking lot sure how long the line was yeah but in Michigan also we got you want to vote you can vote never been easier one stop shop. Right so I just found it interesting that he said that he's like y'all are not even own brand. Also, you know, a my district here in Austin which is democrat run and I am in the opportunity zone so I am in literally the opportunity zone so we we have our polling place is for poor people. And there was no line we went Friday there's no line was no problem. And Texas is all I hear is Oh, they're suppressing the vote in Texas off the worst ever wasn't. Now we're not the same as Houston. But still it was I was ready to wait a couple hours if necessary. It was nothing nothing at all walked right in. Cases finished without that just had you from you. You frequent New York City. Mm hmm. How did you know what club to go to? How do I know what club to go to? Well, yes, or what spot to go to the line? Well, yes, the velvet rope concept. If you if you want to make your club look popular, put a velvet rope up and keep people out and then everyone will flock to it. Maybe that's what they're doing. And I'm just I'm just shooting for the hip here because when you said that it just sparked a thought in my brain. God do they have the line? Well if you rob pass like out man, the voting is deep. Let me let me go get in line just like with the Popeye's chicken. Ah, yes, yeah. Hey, the line creates more business to get more people to get in the line. Because it seems like it's the popular thing to do. The Popeye's chicken might have been a dry run. I'm just saying I mean, whenever you say I know when we go to the barber shop you like you knew me since we're talking politics barber shop and to go when you're new to barber shop you like are you waiting on and like you got four guys waiting on one guy. It's like, Okay, I'm getting to be fifth in that line. Right. There, right, and the best political talk. Right? So I'm just saying maybe these lines are strategic, because it doesn't make any sense if they have the access to voting in their control as Matt Johnson said, That's why I included that in that clip because it's going off brand But enough with magic we can get straight into number 12. This year we're playing away three things to know one sometimes good people have bad information while Mimi also sessions with conspiracy by COVID and melon voting. It might be from Moscow. No joke. What you can do fact check the families that are next to you don't need a rep to see that not everyone is playing fair out here that sort of beef about Biden's democratic plantation by spicy Black King for 11 might not be real you could be totally bought or paid for what you can do ignore the internet gangster only fight with your teammates three register them early if you can. Stay focused stay with under review a partnership with more than a vote and win black So speaking of ballers This is LeBron James an effort to get the vote out but I noticed that he he learned a lot from 2016 he doesn't want to get too close to a candidate no so he does this thing was it called a he's a push back at Miss information and it's like all of your tells you about a it's about a it's probably Russian Of course and they box and it means that it's still the same talking point it's the boss's boss but msnbc This is on deadline
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  • discussing the brown But yeah, I think the bronze like I'm not gonna go and campaign for a candidate. But I will you know, put some money and put my my muscle behind getting Joe Biden elected without getting any blowback on me. But he did have that voter dodge shirt which it irks me, to me big time. It's like really really gonna die. Yeah, knock it off. I mean, that's that's bullcrap. Also, Joe Biden is the party of China. So make sense that makes sense that LeBron would want to be all in on him. I mean, look, he's we just haven't found the documents yet on Hunter's laptop that include LeBron, but it's coming you know it is. And I don't want to go there but Lakers championship Yeah. And knowing who Obama is now. And he is politics. Wow. I mean, like, I think there's some stinky there with the NBA. Well, the NBA is in big trouble man they got with their revenue down, which could be down as much as 40% for the next year, the another running into all kinds of things like salary caps that can't be paid because the revenues low. It's a mess. It's a read, and I don't know everything about it, but I read enough to know there's real problems in the NBA. Yeah, and they would play in their ranges, but they want to turn their ranges into voting polls. So hello, yeah. And have it saved, not safe enough for us to play him. But we can we can let you come and vote. psychology behind me is very cool. We're cannon fodder. That's that's what we are. We can't afford it. But let's get into the 13th. part two of this LeBron James clip.
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  • You might recognize the voices of Jesus and marrow that was part of a collaboration with LeBron James effort more than a vote, as you heard is called under review a new rapid response operation aimed at flooding the zone, as they say, with facts in order to counter political misinformation targeting black Americans, black voters on the bronze latest venture, The New York Times right says quote, more than a vote has invested in recruiting more than 40,000 poll workers helping formerly incarcerated people regain their voting rights and aiding the push for NBA arenas to be converted into polling locations for back with former Congresswoman Don Edwards, Jason Johnson. I don't think LeBron efforts, LeBron James efforts off the court get as much attention as they deserve Jason I mean, he we've, we've been covering them because they're so they go so much deeper. There's so much more tactical, using the bully pulpit.
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  • Nicole Wallace, man, I really do not like her. She is so mean. I have to give her credit. The way she spun that though, which I see why she spun it was like, why was Bala Brahmin not campaigning for him? Well, the way she spun is he's being more tactical tactical, yes. I'm not getting that message. But he had a him and Jay Z. If you notice, Jay Z bins had been missing through this whole election. And Beyonce haven't seen her either. Because they've caught so much blowback from going on stage with Hillary Clinton. Yeah. It was like, No, we're not. I'm not doing that anymore. But that's how she had to spin it was all he's being tactical. Yeah. And why is it just now that you're getting these NBA? arenas turned into polling stations? I don't understand it. They talk about voter suppression, voter suppression. And I know I'm harping on this. But very few people understand that it's in their control. Yeah, they could create more polling places. Sure. Why don't they? If that's where, if that's really well want to do, if voting was really that important to politicians, they would have outlawed it decades ago. We all know, they just thought it would be better if nobody voted. Just a couple people to push them through. Let's go, let's get let's get into his last. I can't take any more. last clip, LeBron. So this is this is what I like about well, Brian is doing this, sort of in the New York Times article. They're talking about issues instead of a candidate in 2016. He did a lot for Hillary Clinton in Ohio, but you can't change how people feel about the requirements. But what you can talk about is, Hey, who's your local district attorney? Hey, what's your school board's situation? Hey, is anybody taking care of your grandmother. And this is the kind of nonsense that's being targeted at. There's been so much effort to suppress the blacks, in particular, the African American male vote. And George Paul, all these other players, he recognized that people like ice cube for a lot of noise represent a much smaller portion of the African American American males than LeBron represents. Wow, you know that they're talking about you Mo. I mean, I'll take some of the hit. There has been quite a quite a bit of voter suppression against the African American male. That's exactly what you've been doing. You've been telling them not to vote. If you want to take that as depression. That's what they're saying. That is what they're talking about. That's literally what they're talking about with it. Yeah, that's what the whole misinformation campaign. Somebody shows you something on their laptop. Yeah. Joe Biden and I seen this disgusting. I haven't caught out one guy that was like the libertarian vice president nominee on Twitter about it. The Joe Biden never said super predator, fishing spat. Which is factually true. Yeah, actually, uh huh. But they never clarify to go on and say, Yeah, he did say predator. But they'll use that and this. And if I say he didn't say that, or semi misspeaks. He said, he says super predator. All this misinformation is from the Russians. Did you get a like, or a follow from him? No, I did not. But I did get a reply. I did not I did get a reply saying all my bad. And then he did clarified to go on to say that. He did say predator, but he was like factcheck. rock obama, me always give me a Joe Biden didn't say, super predator and just left it there. And I'm like, Oh, no, you got to be replatform. Yeah, thank you. So yeah, to bigger platform to let that ride. Was this a white guy? Yes, it was, well, you know, how did you have to do that next time? You always start off by saying, I am surprised you would use your privilege. You don't just say what it is. Say? I'm surprised you would use your privilege to let's see, in this case, to tell me I cannot correctly read quotes. I mean, anything like that, the minute you say, almost to anybody, you say, I can't believe you used your privilege, their brain fries, and then they go away. It's really beautiful. Try it at work. Or you can say, I'm surprised that you allowed your privilege to afford you the opportunity. Now you're talking. Yes. And you don't have to put anything in about black white male, female, Gay Straight, just a privilege. And it fries people's brains. Oh, my God.
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  • Which privileges I use. I have so many of them. Man.
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  • We are the problem. But we tell now this is why I brought up the port with Matt Johnson and see he's saying all we have all this place to vote never been easier. And then they come back with voter suppression. So are you saying informing people not missing for me? Because you can say okay, I got two pieces of information. Let me see which one seems valid or not. Right. But just the act of putting information in front of somebody that counters the narrative is Miss information. It's clearly classified Miss information. Of course, man, that's that's very troubling. That's very troubling. But a lot of these people are gonna be out of jobs come November 4. I mean, let's just be clear. Everything gets the wall. I don't know now that will bring in a new that will bring in a new cycle. Our new lineup, but if you noticed, was named Melissa Perry. Harris Perry. Yeah, a lot of these people went missing at the 2012. Yes. And 2006. Teen and this is the big enchilada here. It's like we can't be Trump. We can't be anybody. Right. That's a real problem. But speaking of ballers a ball of berry Obama sticks his head out the hole.
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  • Yeah, I saw this. He threw a three pointer. Whoo. Yeah. And he bops off with the classic Obama. This is what I do. I do. I stand in the corner. I throw three pointers in my free time. You haven't seen this man shoot a basketball since he was in the White House. All golf, golf golf. Yeah. Now. Now, talk to black people. He's the boy give me give me the rah, rah. And then also Obama said he was trash anyway. I mean, Michelle Obama said he was trash anyway. So I mean, but this is what I do. But I saw through it right away. This. Let's invoke the cool Obama and he hits the three and he bops off screaming This is what I do. And he's supposed to give people the warm and fuzzies and we go vote for him. No, not happening to others who like Yeah, and I know I may sound like I'm being hard on him, but he is the representation of the bigger problem. Yeah. So what we need to do is go back in history, and these are some clips to explain why he's the problem. And he allowed herself to be used and this is from thought, excuse me. This is from Fahrenheit 11 nine that was made more and when a message is urgent enough sometimes help arrives. City of Flint USA may 5 2016 POTUS has arrived.
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  • The people of Flint had one last beacon of hope.
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  • We're all invited to this big thing with a president obama was going to speak to us about the problem. Oh my god.
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  • We've been waiting. Once he see he can make a conscious decision to push this with urgency.
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  • Since recovery is everybody's responsibility,
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  • and I'm gonna make sure that responsibility is met. That's why I'm here to tell you directly that I see you and I hear you
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  • can Can I get some water?
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  • I remember this.
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  • I want a glass of water.
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  • Get a bottle drinking
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  • glass wall.
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  • Was that was? That was classic?
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  • A good one. Did you hear the fake cough? Oh, yeah. Sure. I really didn't. It's not this is not a setup. And he's gonna show you Even then, when Flint was going on, he still had the people on his back. And he's I see you, I hear you. I'm gonna do a damn thing for you. Now give me that water so I could drink it. And then we can get it wrap this thing up. That's a lie. He doesn't have this history. I don't understand how the democrats lie. He did. He did. He doesn't have this history. And well, drinking water was good. If you come from a completely constructed fake background, it doesn't matter. You can forget all that history. Image Obama is not who he is. We know that. Now this we've we've we've gone through that. So it's no problem for him to or anybody who's around him to pretend that that's that he has, he just has no history. He's a blank slate. Every time you see him, you can be whoever he wants, because it's all phony to him. But the problem is the people that you're trying to communicate and activate, they have a very long memory. And this is exactly why he's, the Democratic Party is struggling in Michigan, and need to roll out Magic Johnson. Because Flint and you forget this. And Detroit is another major urban quote unquote, urban area that they need to pile up votes like Miami Dade County. And if you don't get that that big, start in those places like Flint and Detroit. You're gonna lose. Yeah. And it's all because of Obama arm. How the democrats maneuver like you said, he's a blank slate how they maneuvered in, allow him to move, that he didn't do anything for symbolic or not for the black community. But he can use symbolism as we saw this glass of water. And it didn't land Well, what he feels you what he feels like to me. You know, so in the 80s, there are big rock stars, you know, that's probably I dealt more with big rock stars than anything. And it's when I see Obama, and you compare him to, you know, the big speeches, which he was beautiful. He's so fantastic the way he did, he has the crowd and he's got the staging and the lighting and man, he's in his element. It's, it's, it's a beautiful thing to watch. And now it's the equivalent of watching one of those rock stars from the 80s or maybe even from the 70s show up at the Westbury music fair on a shitty stage, you know, the crowds mediocre. He's overusing his voice. He's yelling a lot harder because he needs the feedback. He needs that setting. And he doesn't have it and it's just, it doesn't have the sheen. It doesn't have the magic at all. And and we live in a visual world. So when I see Philadelphia or I see any of these places where he's popping up, even when he's like, calling Joe Biden out on the stage and you know, the stage the whatever stage management is going on, he has to wait five minutes and call Joe eight times before he comes out. That's embarrassing. It's embarrassing. Sing he shows it his whole body language shows that, and the audience knows it because we know we're supposed to be seeing from a show, and we're not getting it. And it's fallen apart, and it's very transparent. And but that goes to show you they think, election cycle till election cycle. Yeah, they didn't say let's preserve Obama, right. Obama, you take the blackmail side of saying, Yes, we need to have, we need to have something for our vote. Now, we might not win 2020. So be it. But at least you're back in the play, you're back via viable political asset. What they've done is run him run him into the ground. So the point where he doesn't have any sway with the people, none. And that's what happened. And you are hearing this from the second clip from the Altair high level nine,
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  • play. He went his lips he did not drink. He didn't sit but he
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  • there was an audible gasp in the audience. People were just like, absolutely did check that.
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  • Why don't you do that?
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  • Sure that somewhere when I was two years old, I was
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  • tasting it. And I got some lip.
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  • Yeah, that's like talking about like wall. I didn't wear a seatbelt. And I find it's like a barrel, tons of people that die.
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  • Backstage is the president sitting at the table with the criminal governor on Saturday to perform his stunts all over again. You know, generally I have not been doing stunts here. But that's
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  • not what I expected. That's what Snyder did. It felt like he minimized like what people are actually going through and struggling with. If you were actually lead poisoning, you would not be president, you will be janitor, Barack Obama.
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  • We were holding on to hope that he would declare a disaster. A disaster would give us FEMA, it would give us pipe replacement, get engineers in here, then we could get Medicare for all the residents of Flint. As soon as he took a drink of the water and said everything's fine. That was that was that.
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  • And look at it years later. It's still poisoned.
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  • When he came here was my president. But when he left he was not my president.
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  • Wow, mess it right there. Yes, it right there. came here as my president left. And that's you can you can surmise, his whole eight years is that he came in as our president, but he left not our president. Because the way he treated Flint. He treated all black people the same way. You can't even get a trial or investigation on Trayvon Martin, or any of these things. I mean, come if nothing else, like you got to do something. Well, that's not what he he didn't want to upset the status quo. Here's what he has done. He has a free weekend on HBO, with an episode of the shop in uninterrupted, which is former President Barack Obama and and he's right there with LeBron James. So they're out, doing stuff together. This is great. Get Your FREE HBO. And that's what they said about a bi was doing and creating these barbershop a situation situations where we could talk, right, the talk is over. You missed the conversation. We've been saying this ever since you left office. We understand how pop what happened was black people got a crash course. And how politics work. Before it was like if we can just get a black president get a black president. Now is it doesn't matter what color the president is. It's what they can can. They can turn around what they can deliver and you hold them accountable for what they promised. And what they delivered. Just like Trump, he's on the clock now. If he wins, it's going to be Where's that? Where's the plan? We missed a great opportunity. We now got to fall we got involved. This should have been iced out Platinum plan. Oh, nice. Yes. Very nice. Well, this is this is probably one of the big stories after this election, no matter which way it goes is the demise of Barack Obama. I mean, he went from Rockstar to failed television producer. You know, he hasn't even even he's he's two years late with his book. I mean, it's completely fallen apart. The Mirage of what he is what what he stood for, what he what he what he has and what he is is a man it's completely gone. Yeah, and I know people are saying, well, you thank you beating up on Obama. Yes. But Obama is the icon. Yeah. Obama is the icon that the DNC created to galvanize us and bring us in. So when that icon doesn't deliver, he has to take the brunt of the know the pushback and the disappointment and everything negative that comes along with, you know, playing racial politics. It's always a pendulum and it goes one way and it comes back and it goes back again, and you just don't want to be hit by the pendulum. So these next set of three clips, this is gonna cover how it created the environment for a Donald Trump to run and win. First, just how it creates an environment for him to even run. And we're gonna get into three throwback clips what the first two are for shows week three, and this is Tavis Smiley, black America last brown under Obama. This week, while we were traveling in Iowa, we spoke with Mr. Smiley about what's changed over the last decade, as Martin Luther King Day approaches on Monday, we started by talking about what areas if any, are better for black america now than they were before Barack Obama took office. I'm sad to report that in every single leading economic category, black America has lost ground over the last decade in every major economic category, we've lost ground. So this book comes out, as you said, in 2006. So clearly, this book was out before Obama shows up to win 2008. So the book was never about Barack Obama, then this 10 year update is not about him now. But it is true that over these last two years, most of that on his watch black America has lost ground and the major economic indicator categories. Yeah, that was Episode 23. Right. Yeah. So we've lost ground. How does that happen under the first black president, that goes to show you that we were not in the plans at all past getting him elected? You have to say, if nothing else, they have this lease, maintain what they have, but to lose ground every major measure? I mean, it seems almost like on purpose. I know I'm being very cynical. But how does that happen?
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  • You're coming out of a everybody. Oh, 708. That's when you know, the whole market reset. So you think if it's going to be an upswing, every buyer should be able to give them an upswing. And you will see it's at least better off or at the same level that we were when he took office. But that's not the case for Tavis Smiley writing his book. We're still looking for terrorists. out there. Tavis got d platformed. From a lot of things. He got canceled the heart also. No one had anything to show for after the Obama presidency. Everything. I mean, it was an unfortunate start in 2008. But black, white Brown, I don't think anyone had any improvement. True, but I'm just saying if. Okay, it's like Sam, he had been the first woman president. No, I'm, of course I understand what you're saying. I'm just saying he failed on a lot of fronts. Not just it. But you would have thought that indeed, the one thing because of the first black president, the one thing he could have done one thing and there's really nothing to point to is there not a single thing that there is nothing and then people say oh, well, he that's this is their favorite go to. But he let us know that our children could be president one day what hell? I don't want my kids to be president. They can't do it. But sometimes it's just better to be. No, we're standing is okay. We're still here. Is that? Is that really something that that you hear said as well? He showed us that that is possible. These are talking points. What did he do for us? Well, he showed us that we can make it there to the mess. You said you say um Well, why didn't he get anything done? Well, he didn't have the you know that he had a mission to they even had to be the president for everybody. Or he didn't have the you know, the for the republicans met up now. The day he was inaugurated to say they were going to say no to him. That's how politics work. Hello. Well, once he had the house, he had the Senate and he spent all of that time making Wall Street rich, which is what Obamacare is Obamacare is an insurance scheme. And insurance companies are not buildings with people in lab coats. Why? Walking around, it's not, you know, it's it's banks, it's bankers guys in suits, speculating with the money giving 30 cents on the dollar to hospitals that was that's what he was there to do and push that through hell or come hell or high water and squandered every every other opportunity while doing that that was his mission. He accomplished that to some degree. And luckily enough for me, I was stablish after he got an office, but for a lot of men that, you know, work their way up through the ranks, from age like 21 to 2627. You don't have health insurance? No, it's just like, I'm healthy. I don't have any kids. I'm doing you know what I need insurance for that kind of thing. But to say you have to buy insurance, that would have been a big a big problem or bit cost to me if I would have just shifted back under his under his administration. And that was just the smallest part of the scam really. I'm just saying but that that when it kicked home, you know, now, when every dollar your paycheck is accounted for, for that two weeks. And then you say all you have to either buy insurance or pay a penalty. Even that would have hurt me. Luckily, I was gainfully employed and had health benefits. I went without insurance for a year and a half. Yeah, I went without insurance from age. I literally could not get insurance. I could not get insurance. Well, yeah, $2,000 a month. Like I can't pay that. So I took the I took the $300 penalty twice. And still no insurance. You had to pay for something you don't you don't have insurance. That's what it is. And the other thing I was excited about at least he was saying the the government option where you can buy in and it would have been, you know, a set price. And it's like, okay, at least if you want to be a small business owner or entrepreneur, that kind of thing. It's like, okay, at least I can get insurance for this price here. But it was unaffordable. It was unaffordable. There was no not good price. No saying the way he sold it. Oh, sure. If it would work, it would allow people to because a lot of people don't get into
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  • being an entrepreneur because of giving up your health insurance and your benefits for your job. So if that would have been available, you would maybe seen a lot of people coming on Oh, wait. Maybe taking more chances. But it didn't happen that way. So I guess we'll wrap up with tabs here because it's a more vital information. The second clip for that show. Tab Smalley to what accounts for the fact that less that there's so little progress or the need to the backsliding what accounts for that going on. Under the leadership of the first African American president. Why do we explain that VM? I think there are a few things into your question. How do we explain it? I don't know. I think that historians are going to have a very difficult time trying to juxtapose how in the era of the first black president the bottom fell out for black America, that's going to be a hard juxtaposition to make out to be around to read what their account is for why they think that happened. But my research in this text suggest a few things in no particular order. Number one, there was too much deference to the president by black people. We got so caught up in the symbolism that we didn't press hard enough on the substance. And so symbolism does matter. I just think substance matters as well. And so there was too much deference in some part. To the President on the part of black people, black leaders were sidelined in silence too often in favor of an invitation to the White House. And so more could have been done in terms of pressing an agenda. You look at the gay and lesbian community. Look at the environmental movement course Wall Street gets everything they want, but look at what other communities gained over the last decade. And look how black America wasn't just stagnant, but indeed lost ground over the last 10 years in part one, because we were too deferential. The reason why I wanted to play this clip, because it may seem like oh, well, we're going through a lot of throwback clips, but we have to put these in the context. And it was something that once again, you hear these clips, but then when you re hear them, you hear something else. The bottom didn't fall out. Pro black America, black America was reestablished as the bottom Yeah, he's like, no, get down. Press press press. Alright, now we have a firm bottom. A we can build from there. And once we and I'm just gonna speak for black men. All you're pushing What? And this group got that and we don't get anything. It was this animosity. Yeah, it was this in we had a shit. animosity with 145 stablish. As you were here and number 20. You Mr. Trump recognized that the real problem was a lack of leadership and so on. You didn't blame Littlejohn or meatloaf.
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  • You fired Gary Busey.
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  • And these are the kinds of decisions that would keep me up at night.
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  • It just kept going and going. And he just kept hammering him. And I thought, oh, Barack Obama is starting something. I don't know if he'll be able to finish.
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  • about Mr. Trump, he certainly wouldn't bring some change to the White House. See what we got up there. I think that is the night that he resolves to run for president. I think that he is kind of motivated by it.
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  • Maybe I'll just run, maybe I'll show them all.
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  • Every critic, every detractor will have to bow down to President Trump. It's everyone who's ever doubted Donald, whoever disagreed. Whoever challenged him. It is the ultimate revenge to become the most powerful man in the universe.
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  • Well, of course, it, it was really, really, really quite a spectacle. And when I saw it, I knew that was going to be the reason why Trump would take red running seriously, I don't I'm not gonna say that it made him run. But he was in it to win it after this point. Because when you're being embarrassed, publicly, yeah, that way, but what that did was set Trump on a crash course with black men who had the same share animosity for Obama. See, this is why I'm making this episode. People think black people just woke up. One black man is woke up one day like, you know, we're not gonna vote. No, it was the conditioning that happened. You're worse than you ever was. School suck. You can get shot walking down the street. Now you have this whole Black Lives Matter kicking up making people feel another mistake and no mistake. It's another arrogant mistake. It is. It's a mistake. And it Yeah, but then at the same time, why are chose all the things that Trump did recently with the policing? I think it was executive order? wildoe things on the table? Why was so many judge spots left open? When you claim that, you know, that's the real The, the implementation of white supremacy? Is the courts, right? Yeah. Why did he leave so many court spots open?
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  • It's just
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  • mistake after mistake after misstep. That crowd? I will say it again, they create this animosity towards Obama. No, um, I can't say the words, but it was a you know, it was a you know, I button is dude, but it's just another way that you, you went out a row for everybody else. And then you come back around to 2016. And talk about your legacy, what legacy your legacy is, we're worse off than we ever worse. Your legacy is that you did nothing for the people that you post to represent black man or black people. So yeah, so when you create a Trump, and Trump says what he says, is some things that fall true for us as well. Like we understand Yeah, he didn't do anything. But what do we have to lose? Obviously, nothing. Keep that guy away from the office. Anybody like because
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  • this is backwards.
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  • If we're going backwards, I met him. Um, we don't need to head that way. So this is what is the making of the voter bloc now that's in play in the 2020 election. I know that was a long way to get here. But this explains where we're at right now. I know. I don't think anybody has ever taken the time of course, why would they? Win nobody has ever taken the time to understand the psychology of black men. And, and I have another clip here. Not only did he give us doing he didn't he didn't do anything for Flint. He made us worse off than we was anytime in history. Under what they measured is on the final two measurements. Dean he talked down to us black men. When he says we must take responsibility for providing guidance for our children. Turning off the TV set, putting away the video games, attending those parent teacher conferences, helping our children with their homework, setting a good example. That's what everybody's got to do if we're going to be moving this country forward, teaching our daughters to never allow images on television to tell them what they're worth teaching our sons to treat women with respect. And to realize responsibility does not end at conception. But what makes them a man is not the ability to have a child but to raise one. That's a message we need to say.
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  • Hey, you're no good. You're no good man.
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  • So what he did was is buy into all the stereotypes about black men, we run around, we don't we don't take part in our kids lives. We don't teach them anything. Teach them how to read and do math and these things, and then we just make babies and just run off. You know how hard it is to be a deadbeat dad nowadays, to be honest with you. No, I'm serious. And this is something that I want to explore later on in another show. Because these meems Oh, Batman banned dead beats is almost impossible to be a deadbeat dad, unless the mother allows you to be because with child support and DNA that changed the whole game now. Yeah, the system was really sharp on that now. Yeah, I would say from a no man house, into the curation of DNA and implementation of DNA in the family court, you may have have a point. But still, it was it we may have a point but up when DNA came in, I would say maybe mid 90s. Don't quote me on this bio. But just, I'm just going off gut feeling here. And when I start hear people talking about paternity, testing data in nature, maybe early mid 90s. From that point, that's almost 30 years, where the court dictate to you that you have if the mother feel like you need to be irresponsible. All she has to do is go downtown and take you to an aisle to the family court. And either you pay or you go to jail, right? Those are your two choices. So this whole thing to take responsibility in blah, blah, blah. Well, we've been taking responsibility, you're not talking to us. And when I say us, I'm talking about men of my age. I have a question. They will know. Yes. Well, and I don't want to interrupt your flow, but I'm doing it. So now God complaint please do? Yes. Okay. So Joe, Joe Biden loses. Let's just look at the you know, whenever we hear about this, and the numbers will show that black men and probably Hispanic men are the reason either by not voting at all, but not turning out or by perhaps by voting for Trump, which is your two for one as you explain. And then moving forward, what what receipts Do you have, because we're already seeing that that's being obfuscated? It's not being the story's not being told, it will never be headline news. I have a hard time believing the any media will say, holy crap, the democrats screwed up with black men. What receipts Do you have to show for the next time around? It's a lot of very intelligent brothers that dig into the numbers. And just cos you don't hear it on mainstream, and this is why this is the new media what we're doing here. People get more information from platforms like this and others, that they can't hide it anymore. And you said what, what was the word you use? What receipts Do you have received yet? Or the win and loss column? continue to do what you're doing? And you'll continue to lose? Now if you enter the business or lose elections? That's fine. Don't change. Right. But I'm saying now what you need to show something to the winning party that you're responsible to know the winner party understands this? Yeah. Okay. If you're talking about the Republicans, they completely understand is this big gold nugget out here? Call? I mean, you're just talking to me in just just a black man, we're not talking about all black people. is bit gold shiny nigga out here that will win every election for them from here on out, if they can tap into that resource. And that's why you hear Trump saying what he's saying. You heard Republicans saying we reached out the black men, you saw with the RFC. Its policies, right? It's politics, and it's looking at the demographics and how can get you to win. Do you think that Trump is sincere? When he says What do you have? Do you think he's sincere in general with his attitude towards towards black people, black men? To show Obama Yeah, and that's what I'm counting on. That's the only hope I have. Right. And that's what I'm laying
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  • out. Yeah. To show up Obama to where he can do a victory lap. Right and throw 500 billion 200 billion 100 billion into black people's lap and say, Look, I took black people at their worst. Yeah, in a way that in a way that is, yeah, that is very trumpian. It's like, you know, he's not a guy that goes up and punches sucker punches you in the face after You've insulted me. He goes back, he does the worst possible thing. So it could be more about screwing Obama than helping anybody. In all honesty, nothing that is narcissistic nature. This is has been that whole strategy is we don't know what a lame duck duck Trump looks like. Where he doesn't have to cater to his base anymore. Because like I said, the 500 billion if he was really trying to come at this making a trillion, but he asked the counter, he's in the same position that the Democratic Party is right now, because of the never trumpers that he has a no. piecemeal base. And he's like, Okay, let me bring some of this the black man in, okay. And it's like this if he, if he can bring black man in. And for every black man, man, he can bring in he could push out a white supremacist vote. He's, you know, saying, Yeah, this is this is not like something that we pulled out the cracker Rob butts here. I think Obama, I think Trump hates Obama more than more than we do. And we can build off of that, you know, offer that. I know that sounds so terrible. It's so sinister. But it's politics. Yeah. It's politics. At the end of the day, I don't have any love for any of these people. But I will say this, offer his narcissism. If he can say, you know what, enough that God stood there and lectured me at the Correspondents Dinner. I erased his whole legacy. And I could benefit from that. So be it. Yeah. I mean, I, you create a nest the point of this whole episode peeker him and the DNC created this environment for this to fester. By neglect? Yeah. So so big is like Rocky, if he dies, he dies. I mean, I mean that literally, but if his legacy dies, it dies. It's not, I am not the keeper of Obama legacy. And if Trump doesn't do anything for me, guess what? It didn't cost me anything. I guess what I'm thinking is, you know, but just, I'm deep in it with you. It would be so nice, if not just Trump and the Republicans to the Democrats. But really, if America understood what shifted this. And yeah, I know, we're part of that we're explaining that. But I would like it to be really apparent, because that that's what's important is, you know, I'm in the media business and the brainwashing is complete, the brainwashing is good, it works. So well. You know, we save people one by one bit by bit, to start thinking about them just differently, you know, thinking for themselves. I just want to make sure that when, when this happens, and let's say it's this cycle, that is that is really known it, you know, people are rewriting history every single day. This one has to be documented and has to be put into perspective and has to be taught it's an important one, because everybody can learn from this. But we understand 6040 years later, what all the inner workings was with a Nixon and shot Kennedy and Kane and, but now with, as you say, the receipt is quite clear. And you can see how fast it's moving atom in a year. And a year's time. If you say, okay, we're gonna have rappers come out and embrace Trump. Yeah. Or not even embrace him, but to say, we'll hear him out. Yeah, because that's all we want to do is I mean, we're still gonna have a lunch. I mean, that's how business deals happen with sound. We have lunch with you. Yeah. We weren't motivated, do anything. I was busy Tuesday anyway. So I'll take a picture with you. Okay.
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  • Because these same people were looked at as, ah, they're there to help their entertainment. Right. And that's not the way it works anymore. Well, certainly, certainly looking at you as you were talking about Jay Z and Beyonce in the 2016 cycle. They were totally treated as help. Hey, come on up. Come on. On stage sing a little bit say something nice dance, huh? Yeah. Just Dance dancing, dance. Do your thing. tell a joke. And that's what it is. So we have an Obama thing because I have to make this clear. This is more about Obama than it is Trump. And this is I'm the advocate, Obama's advocacy.
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  • I'm Boyce Watkins. He is the author of the eight principles of black male empowerment. He is a professor at Syracuse University so So, boys, welcome to you. Listen, I know that you endorsed Barack Obama many, many moons ago. But But when it comes to this initiative, which we're about to see, you say this is too little too late. Why?
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  • Well, you know, I do some soul searching, I talk to people who have advocated for black males for for their entire lives. People like father Michael Pfleger in Chicago. I also talked to political scientists, Michael Fon Troy. And our conclusion is that we have to, we have to figure out if this is real. And the proof is in the potato salad. When you decide you want to advocate for black males, which should not be a type of charity. You know, remember, there are people out here in the community doing this work all the time, who are trying to get resources right there in Chicago, I live on the same street as the president. I see Father flager out there with the gangbangers with the guys that are really struggling. And every time I see him, he says the brothers need jobs. The brothers need help. So when we reach out to rahm emanuel right there in Chicago, Obama's ally, are they also reaching back and offering the support that these people need? I think that's the kind of proof people have to look for. I wouldn't say this is a good program or a bad one. I would say that the evidence will speak for itself. Now who is this voice? This is Boyce Watkins. Watkins. And this is one of the people that own quote unquote, YouTube, or the independent media that he held strong, I gotta give bosses props. Because he was on this whole no voting thing as well. You're not not giving anything, give me anything from my vote. We're not voting. And a lot of people turned. They started out strong, but then it was like they felt some glimmer of hope to vote or that kind of thing. But he held strong, so I gotta give it to him. And he was out here saying the proof is in a potato salad. And I'm asking what every black person asked who made the potato salad? That's what we need to know, Amy. Hey, look, it's looking. It's looking real funny. So it's interesting. He had that one point of beef with Lil Wayne.
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  • Yeah. So
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  • these how these things come full circle is amazing. That's interesting, isn't it? Yeah. Huh? What? So? Very smart brother, PhD. I'm youtuber hey, yeah. But that's the thing. Everybody wants to just write people off or use a YouTuber, or, you know, what, what major network work does he work for? What campaign does he work for? Right? Some of the best and brightest I'm talking about and in psychology and finance and political science. on YouTube. I mean, we we have a we is barely getting our toenail. And then into the pool of what's out there and information. It's not all the same. It's varying, and I can go listen to this guy, and counter it with this guy. And Okay, um, and you get a more complete picture. And then you can this but this is the Miss information. They're stopping you from having. Yes, this is the point. It's like, No, no, no. You to YouTube bot bot Russian Russian. bot bot bot? Yes. Yeah. So that's what they want us to do. And there was no advocacy as boy said he has to wait and see. As tabish told us nothing. It was nothing there. Right. we seen the proof, the proof in the potato salad. Let's wrap up with the second clip from boys. Well, you know, it's almost when you when you go back six years ago, and you remember when April Ryan asked the president, she said, Look, black unemployment is almost at a depression level. Depression levels in certain cities, black male unemployment is as high as 3040 50%, which would be unacceptable in any other community. Are you going to do anything about this about this deep inequality that exists in America and back then he said something that I think was an incredible mistake. He said the rising tide will lift all boats, which really is a racialized version of trickle down economics, which says, If I help all of America, it's going to help black America to well, years later. And again, I'm a finance professor. So I follow Wall Street closely. Yeah, Wall Street is shooting through the roof. Why don't employment has gotten better. Black on employment hasn't really improved in black males are still in the basement. So I think that now, you know, when you come back and you have this initiative years later, it's almost like someone not paying the rent for two years and then showing up with a check for 50 bucks and saying, why are you complaining I'm giving you money, get off my bags. Well, you there's a lot that happened before this transaction that needs to be taken into consideration. That guy's smart. And that's why. And that's why we're saying same time you do a deal is no more I'll get you back your note, same time. We don't we don't understand anything at this after the election or we'll see what we can do. What can you do? Okay, when can you do it? All right, then we know then then we will pay up in a vote. But no, no more this will discuss that the election because this is how we got burnt with the eight years with Obama, and as boy said these cities, these same cities, Philadelphia, a Dade County in Miami Dade County, Detroit, these people have been unemployed. Since Obama been in office. Yeah. You really think they got to go out and vote? That's what that's 12 years. And things may have gotten better under Trump, and you're gonna convince them to keep voting democratically. I mean, that's, that's, it's a hard sale. So if I stay jobless, why would I vote for democrats? So that's a plus one. And if I actually got things got better in the last four years, that's a plus two. And now you see why the numbers are down, and a, as they say, with the sX rockcliffe.
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  • So it is, it's
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  • it's a very, very interesting times. And then you have 45 savage come along and makes his pitch. Look how much African American communities have suffered under democratic control. To those I say the following. What do you have to lose? By trying something new like Trump?
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  • I say it again. What do you have to lose? Look, what do you have to lose? You're living in poverty. Your schools are no good. You have no jobs. 58% of your youth is unemployed.
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  • What the hell do you have to lose?
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  • At the end of four years, I guarantee you that I will get over 95% of the African American vote. I promise. It's a promise, man. Promise, you got to look into that. False wait for him to come up. No republican ever had ever said that. Well, how did that come across? Is that come across?
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  • As pandering? Did it come across as
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  • shockingly interesting, did it come across as me just what? What was it besides the tried Trump, which I think is just I mean, shit, I want to try Trump when I hear him say that. It's like, I'll try anything. I'll try some meth trying I'll give it a shot. Well, it's for him to talk directly to the black voter as a Republican. And lay it out. Everything that Tavis Smiley has said, your schools up, kids are unemployed, which unemployment for youth is very important, are no employment for you is very important. Because that's what you learn work ethic. That's when you learn how to get up, go to job show up on time, save money that you make. So when you start working at 1415, you have a certain understanding of life, where you may start working at 20. So this way, say 58% of your kids are unemployed. That's because their parents are taking the jobs meant for them right. And fast food and the service industry and things of that nature where that wasn't the case. When my dad was working. Do you use Have you seen except with a pre pre pre Rona? Was there indeed, a remarkable or a markable market improvement in black employment that you were hearing about? To be honest with you? I mean, just me personally, I didn't know as many unemployed people. Now I'm in my circles. Oh, no, wait a minute. Mo you're black. Don't you talk to all black people. Come on, man. Give me the time. When I have time. I like to chat with me. You know, boom. Get on get on the black Twitter find out what's happening. Well, no, but I mean, surely you must hear you must have heard something. I mean, I hear I hear it all the time. Black unemployment lower than it's ever been really I don't know, I don't trust any employment numbers. The point I was gonna make is this. Kids kids my daughter age when Obama was in office, my nieces and nephews, hard to find a job right. Now my daughter, once she started working in the Trump air excuse she became an age and within Trump, Trump's administration. I mean, she could leave one job and go to the other job now the quality of job we can have that discussion. Because that unemployment number, I'm always a little leery when they talk that unemployment number cuz I was leery when under Obama, so I'm gonna be fair, I have to be leery as well. But I'll just say anecdotally, um, it seems like there's mobility, not glitter, um, laterally, right? So you can leave the job and go this job, okay. You're not. There's more unemployment not necessarily better or better paying, but there was more unemployment to be had. And we saw that in Austin too, by the way, they couldn't hire people. I mean, it was Yeah, it was crazy it for a while. They're like holy crap, they can't even get people in. They're all they're all. And they move around real quick to all kinds of jobs. Yeah, that's what I was saying before. Like, my, my daughter now she's like, Oh, I don't want to work there anymore. And but we saw this under clinton as well. Sure. And that's the weird thing. Also, it seems like these years, minus the mass incarceration of air miles, it reminds you a lot of the Clinton years because you could leave, quit a job and not have to worry about where you're going to work. I mean, you go quit on Friday, and by Monday, you have applications in by the end of the next Friday, you have another job. Now, upward mobility is the one of the concerns. And we have to discuss that at some point. But getting kids into jobs as soon as possible. trains them to have certain disciplines with their money. You learn how to mess your money up a lot earlier. It's like, man, I got paid Friday on broken Monday. learning that at 1516. is a big head start in learning in good light. No. 2021 Yeah, yeah. Because I learned I mean, I've been working ever since I've been 15 years old. And I learned really quick that, okay, you got to have more coming in and going out. But if you're a young adult, when you learn instead of a teenager, it makes a big issue with your development. So we have to look at these things, not just in numbers, but in the behavioral behavior that it teaches as well. Okay, so we heard Trump make his pitch. And if Obama had done what he had needed to do, they would have fell on deaf ears, but it didn't. My name is Matthew Holly, and I am a Trump supporter.
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  • Because I'm black, that I have to vote Democrat, that they can come out and say, racism bad. You guys went through a whole bunch of stuff, and I'm here to save you vote for me. They've been doing that for years now. What they never change in this election right here will be the first time I actually cast a ballot for President.
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  • When I first seen Trump, he was standing at the podium. And he addressed black people directly. And he told us, you guys have been voting for Democrats. Forever. You're living in poverty. Your schools are no good. You have no jobs. 58% of your youth is unemployed from voting for Democrats all these years. And then he looked in the camera and he said, Why do you lose like that? I mean, if he asked you this, but did you ever talk to mama facts about this about this particular statement?
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  • No, I'm that's a non starter.
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  • Okay, no, no, because
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  • to certain demographic, and this is what the democrats have miscalculated on. They think that we're our parents. And we're not. Yeah, I grew up under post Jim Crow. I won't say post racial cuz it's always gonna be racial but post Jim Crow, so I don't have the same I who, that oppression, I don't have it. It's not internalized says the boomers precedence so for us we can be very fluid and we receive information in a different way we have other avenues information to come in so for for older people, they're not going to change. I mean, I mean, I think that that's for older people and women. They're not going to change right away. How about uncle Richard man? Oh, well he I mean he, he's hurt by Trump, but he doesn't hate him. Yeah, comment cuz some, some because some of the things Trump can say if I hear it through their ears. I can hear the dog whistles. But like with Kanye and Trump, I understand what they're saying. So I hear it, how they meant it, not how it can be construed or interpreted how it can be construed. Yes, exactly. So I mean, that's the one of the disadvantages, but I can't that's why I have conversations. And I'll listen to Boomer news to see how they take it. And that's what kind of would um, what's his name? I keep rolling Mar, and he makes Boomer news. Even though he's on YouTube, now, he makes Boomer news because he's talking to that crowd, but it's like, they're already gonna go vote. I mean, you can't stop my mom or dad from voting. I'm in Corona could be a person standing at the polls, you're not gonna stop them for voting, because it's something they never had at one time, right. So I get it. And that's why we had to stop the generational war. Because we had to be able to empathize with our parents to say, if I can never do that, I get it. Right. I understand why. Okay, I get it. But sorry, Mom, I can't follow you. Because, because I have a little bit more information. And I and I, we have a plan. So, um, let's see, we had Trump. Okay. Yeah. So you heard this guy, he was saying he was activated. By being taught. It's amazing if you talk to a person how far you can get with them. That's funny how that works. It's funny how that works. So now we have to give credit where credit's due. She's been missing from the show for a while, but this is a throwback clip 46. And Karen Hunter was spot on about the blackmail vote is my favorite from Sirius XM.
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  • with Trump 15% of black men actually pulled the lever for Trump, I think it's gonna be the same. And it's that Kanye group is that group that just the guy just called up that they feel not powerful anymore that the world is shifting is all of these different things going on? We got these in dems. Now, I don't know what to do with that we got women out there talking about they don't need us, we got this and this and that. It resonates with them. And I was thinking it still does. That that portion is not going away. As a matter of fact, I think he might have galvanized more. I think he's gonna get a lot of black men voting for him. nobody's talking to black men. 866-801-8255, not a single one of these can everyone's over indexing on black women. You're not going to win against Trump, just talking to black women. You're not going to win against Trump. Not not engaging and talking to black men. And I'm saying this because I don't hear anybody talking to black men. Period. And the only voice that actually resonates with black men is Donald Trump.
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  • No way Chelsea Handler is talking to 50 cent. So she's talking to a black man, reminding him that he's black, but okay, she's talking to him. In what, man Karen was spot on and stuff. And one thing that beams in vaes Yeah, I don't care.
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  • They just don't
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  • see, I think that was a stereotype. That was a stereotype that she used to say black men are homophobic or transphobic, or something phobic. That was a stereotype. What she had to do that because if she made too much sense, oh, no, we can't put it on us being small minded. So I was like, Oh, well, it's understandable. They're small minded. And, you know, that's why they're doing what they're doing. Not the fact that we haven't had anybody talk to us. She did bring that point up. But the reason why we're engaging with these people is because we have some kind of inferiority complex or that kind of thing. No, it's that we understand how politics works. And I must say this one thing you asked me a long time ago, he goes on show one or two and this thing sticks in my head. To this day, you said why would black women do make the deal that they made with the DNC? And I said, ego you remember that? Yeah, of course, of course. Remember that young reply. Ego is what's gonna, potentially and if you listen to the polls, everything's lining up like that Miami Dade, because that's the only information we have coming out, but these epicenters of blackness play out the same, then we're looking at another four years of Trump. And it was their hubris I was you know, I was just about to say the word is hubris, I had just looked it up to put it in the show notes. It is totally hubris 100%. Because if they were to say, you know what, let's get a black
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  • male vice president.
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  • Now, you have to give us the black female justice, you know, and make certain concessions for black women. But we have to be able to Karen tell you, the brothers are pulling away from the hurt. You're losing them. nobody's talking to them. If somebody was super serious, and you're saying may not be used, you said that it's not being said on mainstream, but it is she's on Sirius radio. Now. It's not ABC or NBC or CBS. Well, I was gonna ask you, I was gonna ask you about that. What what is the impact of the Karen hunter show? I mean, they don't release ratings, so there's no way to look it up. Is that do you think she has a solid foothold in? in black America who's listening to Sirius? Well, Boomer Boomer crowd she does, but she's she started I didn't start picking up on her until she started being on YouTube and an algorithmic hurry right videos in basic off the topic. I keep forgetting Yeah, I keep forgetting that. I'm thinking like Who the hell is listening to Sirius XM really doesn't know you Okay, that's thank you that makes that makes you the battleground bro i mean that this is where the information wars happening because is okay, let me look up this topic. And then they give me my suggestions. Okay, Karen hunter and blah blah blah, Boyce Watkins. All these different people and you get your msnbc your you know, your democratic cnn those kind of things though. This is where it's happening. But no, I went and talked to Karen. Everybody talks to Karen because we heard all the tastemakers and consultants Come on her platform. Yeah, but none of them to the information that she was saying that they should eat but huber's. It's like no, we're gonna get a black woman now. It's like, Okay, and then Kamala, I told him if they were to listen to me, and I had to pat myself on the back. I know I don't do this often. But I have to make sure ran Stacey Abrams. She has the look of a black woman. Yes. It would have told me to gave you Georgia, you know, but
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  • I say again, who was Obama's pick?
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  • Kamala Harris, right.
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  • Yeah, botch this thing. Well, there was there's something about Stacey Abrams, that somehow was very polarizing to the Democratic Party. I'm not quite sure what it was exactly. But there was some things that enough enough operatives or whoever's in charge just did not like about her. Well, we know why they didn't run her because whoever the vice president was, is going to be president. Right? We we know this? Yeah. So like she comes from the council foreign relations. She comes from the Bloomberg camp. Yeah. I think Joe Biden was the placeholder for a third Obama term. And he was going to run that play through Kamala Harris. Well, if it's about winning, you had to run Stacey Abrams. Yeah.
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  • Well, she's all for optics.
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  • You don't have this? She's not an African American conversation. Or she's not a das conversation, right. You don't have the um, it's something well, she has she, she she has the look. Let's just be honest about it. She has the look. She has the short natural hairs a little bit you're saying plus size curvy. curvy, yes. Yes. Yes. voluptuous. BTW. I'm saying cuz that would have been my she's one of our No, Stacy. Not not Kamala No, it's Stacy. Stacy from the blog, you know, that kind of thing. So they they took Obama's advice they took they took the non Das man's advice and look what they wound up with. That's it's they're lost. They're not thinking and any hubris this say okay, we're gonna give them to non African Americans are to not a das. back the back How do you like that?
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  • Well, they didn't
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  • know, they weren't listening they weren't read the comments go to us to read the comments. Um, Karen made this call a long way off. And finally Charlemagne had to admit to Don Lemon that it was true. I saw this this was this is very this was a great clip. even answer your question more deeply, I think, you know, when it comes to those black people you say, you see who may be, you know, showing support for Trump, I just think, you know, it's because Trump is actually talking to young, black male voters, he's directing ads towards them, they are a group that, you know, never get caught it. I mean, black people don't get caught either as a whole, but that old democratic regime, it speaks to old black men, and they think everyone else in the black community, the black family is just supposed to fall in line, you know, black women are gonna show up regardless. And you know, like I said, we speak to older black men, and they think the rest of us all speak the same language. So Trump is targeting young black males and for online marketing, he works for all done man shocked him. But that's that's what we've been saying the whole time. You don't have a black vote. And it's crazy. Today's Man Ray said, Oh, well, the black people don't include black women with the black vote. You made the miscalculation that it was inclusive of black men. And it wasn't. Yeah, it was it doesn't include those. I thought it was repressed. Nobody was talking to us. So that was a pretty big deal that Charlemagne said that that he I mean, he analyzed it, but he also said it's working. I thought that was a big deal. I caught it a long time ago. Charlemagne is a
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  • a gun for hire. Yeah.
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  • If you listen to what he said he never endorsed Biden. he endorsed Kamala big business. Yeah. True. He's been walking this tightrope. And I know why, because they have the they had the counsel of the Canon cop, they ready? Ain't that shot, man, anytime he starts to fall in line with anytime he steps out of too far off the off the path they haven't lined up with his news is his capsule. Cannon? Yeah. So if but if only they were listening to us, they would have known this a long time ago. But this is what we do at the mo facts show. And I think it's to be a great time to take calls. And I guess thanks to people 53 episodes long, or will be 53 episodes after we finish this one. And it's been doing the work is that reading white fragility, no doing the work is what Malcolm X proposed a long time ago, right man in the black man have to be able to sit down at the same table for white men has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings about Negro. And the so called Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feeling of the right man, then they can bring the issues that are under the rug out on the table and take an intelligent approach to get the problem solved. That's the only way to do it. And he could have added to that
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  • Also, we'll talk about black men today. Hi, Laurie. Hi, love black. Very lovely. One of my favorite topics. Hold on some of my best friend a black man, black. Jamil Hill tweeted something out and I think it's time for us to have a conversation. We've been I've been nibbling around the edges of this conversation. We don't have it today. So I'm jemelle Hill. She said she You tweeted this yesterday, I've increasingly found that black men, oh, excuse me, I've increasingly found that many black men just want better access to patriarchy. They don't actually want it dismantled. And when I saw that Twitter trending and she was trending, I was sent to myself. Is this helpful? That's the first thing I said. Why, why Why? Why? Why and then that started a blame black men. Hashtag. Yeah. Now,
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  • Because my Twitter is racist. And it wouldn't give me any any black Twitter. I just the algos depressed. Yes, not just you, but all the blame black man hashtag was suppressed. And, but it was very interesting. I love the memes about the Titanic. Hashtag blank, blame black men. And this this didn't take off. This was this was a coolest thing to see happen. It was natural, because it was a response from a tweet made by um, Jamil Hill, who was known most famously for her work on ESPN and her beef with Donald Trump. Yeah, but known to the black man circle for her white man. I mean, black men or the white people or black people? Yes. So that's what she's most famously known for. So she's been on the radar have activated black men for a long time. And when she came out with this, it was just it spread like wildfire. And like I said, it was that moment of purging for me, honestly, I mean, cuz I stayed up to like, I was, like, I may be like, maybe later than that, I will, cuz it was black was for this too. And why black was? What was, what was your tweet blaming black men for specifically? Now, she said that we don't want to destroy patriarchy. We want more of this to write. Yeah, access to whatever. Hello. That's what we're saying. Yeah, we want a male driven society and that, that type of thing to be normal and modern times. That's not like a crazy thing to say. But that only goes to prove that currently we live in a matriarchy. Well, in black society. I was talking to a friend of mine in in Amsterdam in the Netherlands today. And we were talking about how things have changed and and what Trump brought. And and you and I have discussed this when it comes to black men. But for all men, I think in America, we were on. We were very do the, of course with me too. And you know, of course there's problems with men as problems with women too. You know, people can be shitty, that's just what it is. But we were in a severe state of feminization. pacification is what some would call it. And, and really afraid to be to show masculine traits. I mean, it was it was very suppressed. And when Trump you don't work in court, you don't work in. I mean, sorry to cut you off. But you because I want to get to that point. The fact that you don't work in corporate America, you don't realize how bad it was. Right? Right. It's a very good point. It was, it was that bad. You were walking out hated the floor. Like, I don't want to look at anybody too long, you know, right. Come up with you eyeballing me boy.
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  • Things like I want to look at her and too fast. I'm sorry. No, no, it is absolutely true. And, and I believe in the the male female model, you know, when the man and a woman are in a unit, and they're equal, and they go through life, the thing is one of the most beautiful things, that's just who I am, not everybody agrees. But I think somehow that ying and yang works really well. And in the public media, it was no longer acceptable, really. And then Trump came along and gave license to be more masculine. And it is true that people take examples from figures, for instance, some sexual acts became not really sex under Bill Clinton, there was no that was not really sexual relations, which I think is to this day, true. It's seen as different from actual sexual relations. I'm using his words not mine. And Trump gave license to say, Hey, no, I am making a statement right here. And this is how I feel about it. And maybe we should reconsider some of these things. And I've got a voice and by the way, there's some things that men are really good at
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  • and we should be doing them Trump said, Hey, fellas, you missed me ease. Yes,
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  • I don't think people realize how far we were gone on, on the wrong path, just from my perspective. Now, I will say this, the beautiful thing about a patriarchy is there is a need. Not a want not a light, not a, a need for women. And the beautiful thing about that is everything we get wrong as the Father she corrects and her son, so really, she's dictating what the next generation is going to be. It's like, okay, your father something is way less. Like you said, the Hand That Rocks the Cradle rules the world. So it's that you're guiding the next generation and the next node the next rev to be better than the previous. And I think we have come so far, I mean, society, just to do away with me, to be honest, it wouldn't do away with patriarchy, it was like, we're going to subjugate men. And, and that was the night where people's like, Whoa, we're going too far too fast. So I just want to say that and black men were at the very tip of the, you know, tip of the spear as far as I'm sorry to interrupt right turn, but at the very Yeah, but also the the locker room talk the billy bush bus tape for Trump, how that was turned into the pussy hat rallies. That was really a big part of it. And that was the the push that was the tipping part, that tipping point. I think that went too far. In course, it was horrific and scandalous, etc. And I think everybody knew every adult said, Wow, too, you know, guys talk that way women have their way of talking, you know, this is it was kind of embarrassing. And somehow Trump got through that. And it I mean, it was that's where I think that's where the the movement, the anti man advocate, to be honest, anti white man. I think we're the the the patriarchy is seen as an old white men problem. But don't worry, you get some of that, too. That's when it was pushed. There. We had our you know, you guys were just coming to join us. All nodded already. Right. You believe this? They're built the bridge to the point where we had to go. door to door. Come on, man. Yeah. Thanks. Yeah, I'm glad you. I'm glad you said that. Because something just sparked in my head. And the most dangerous thing and we can jump right to the next clip. At this point. The most dangerous thing for black men was to all victims are to be believed. Because what that does is, there's this understanding that we get accused for a lot of things that we don't do, especially if it's interracially and it goes left and then a woman can call anything. And then you say, I'm, she's to be believed. Now, I believe all women should be heard. I believe that. I mean, I have no problem with that. I have three daughters and a wife and a mother. You know, some of my best friends are women. So so I just say that to say that, but when you say needs to be believed. That's a very dangerous slope, especially for the demographic of black men. And I think that's where it was like, Nah, we've we've jumped the shark here. Yeah, but that's also that went away when it was about Joe Biden, then then all women were not to be believed. So that soda smoking crack and, you know, all these other things that are just so bad until you know, a candidate's family does it and when I'm not in good on that rabbit hole, I'm just saying, but these things are not lost on us. throwing us in jail for crack and now is allegedly, allegedly, you know, someone or your family and partaking in the rock, and it's no big deal. Yeah, now it's just a poor poor son. Yeah, exactly. Let me into.
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  • But as I was processing it, I said that this narrative bolstered by the ice cubes 50 cent P Diddy conversations has, and they've been several women, I'm not, you know, gonna get into those names saying these things about black men in particular. I'm saying to myself, why is this happening? Why are you doing this? Why now? Why and, you know, why was it necessary? So apparently, she was having some conversations with somebody and then went to the Twitter sphere, and I'm saying at some point, we're going to have to have Twitter discipline, all things are permissible, all things are not beneficial. This was not beneficial. And here's what it does. Because let me just be 100% clear.
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  • Black women are important. All black people report, you know, like, it's, it's silly for us to have these conflicts, and they're not real. So let me just give you the real. Here's the real, the real deal is there's no war between black men and black women, there seems to be on social media. Very, very small, minute, very loud faction on both sides doing this thing. Now. Is it beneficial? No, it's not. It's not fact. It is detrimental to the things that we want to get done. Ah,
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  • really, this is where she went wrong. Yeah, it is a war. Yes, I taught two men of dating a better in the dating market. And man, the stories that I hear of just being married. There's certain conversations that can't even be brought up. Because it is so ingrained. It's like, Oh, no, no, no, no, you can't you can't talk about that. But this war is real. Now what I would say
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  • is real. But can it be resolved? Yes.
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  • But we don't want the same thing. That's what is causing the war. The black man, for the most part, black men and black women are being pulled and I want to make this clear, are being pulled in two different directions? Do they want the same outcome? Yes. But the method is what they're not aligning on. And for her to miss that point. I don't know if she was being genuine or not. With that take it hard, hard to say but it? Yeah, it also seemed kind of a little tone deaf that you? Did you really know what's going on on the world? Yeah, because we're we're at the point where men and women only want to talk to each other. I mean, this election news has been very polarizing, very, very polarizing and draining.
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  • it can inflame certain notions, just from just from bringing up a conversation. So it's and that's, that's worldwide, perhaps, but certainly country, why there's all kinds of issues that, well, people have problems talking to each other in general, I would say about issues mo and, and the media is very good at driving wedges between all kinds of relationships, because it behooves them. And we have an app for everything. So I mean that. I mean, that makes it even easier not to deal with men or women, right? I mean, exactly. And I mean everything, but um, I guess we can jump into part three.
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  • Everybody's blaming black men, for Trump, right? I'm gonna give you the actual numbers here. two numbers. Black men with college degrees. 78% of black men with college degrees voted for Hillary Clinton. Hillary arkin 78%. Laurie, I'm not good at math. Is that like, the vast majority of black men with color overwhelming and vast majority? Black men with no college degrees 82% of black men without college degrees voted for Hillary Rodham Clinton. 11% voted for Trump 16% of black men with college degrees, which I think is interesting. Yeah, yeah. That's a whole other conversation that we we should have at some point, too, but they're different conversations, you know, and we are doing this lumping in, like all black men, no, no, that affect 78% with degrees voted for Hillary 82% without degrees voted for Hillary. Now, in juxtaposition of black women, 91% of black women 91% of black women with college degrees, 6% of those same black women voted for Trump. So let's just hear, I don't know who y'all are. You know, I want to shame you probably would have caused degree 6% of you voted for Donald Trump. But yes, this You're right. You know, it's You're right. I you know, I, we are free people. We're free to do dumb things.
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  • To do that. It's like What's wrong with you? You're free to do whatever you want. But what's wrong with you? You're clearly not right in the head. And you're dumb, you're dumb things. But yeah, she just she just illustrated that it's the I hate users worthy, educated, formally educated people. The college degree holders have that are voting. More likely for Trump than non it's a it's the inverse then on the white side, right. They say that college educated is more towards Biden on the white side, and without degrees are far more for Trump. So it's this opposite thing going on. But they always want to call you dumb, stupid, uninformed, you know, understand. It's complex. But why is it the formally educated and not and I don't like that degree thing in the first place. Well is mo you have a degree I don't. I dropped out of college, you know. So I listened to that. And I'm like, really? All right. I'll take you on any day. Come on. I don't have a lot of people that I talked to him now. It's like you don't get it. So yeah, well look at school, you know, what is school school is their Shula. It's a place for you to be educated. We make sure you have all the right information. And the lucky thing for me just inside baseball on Mo, I went to class, not college. Run. I didn't stay on campus. class. I didn't get indoctrinated with all the fraternities, sororities, a surprise to boulais. They should have come for you. They kind of do. They did. They did. Well, they tried when you were young, when you were the youth writer. That's when they tried to get you. No, no, they tried to give me a college. Oh, yeah. But I will, I must say this, and I might, I might get counseling for this one. But I was like, if you're gonna beat me for six weeks and change my name. That sounds too much like slavery to me.
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  • Exactly. Exactly. Yeah.
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  • Well, moving on. Right off the bat, though, back to 52. And the shaming, so she brought up shaming. And we listen to Rosenberg chata. Shake Ice Cube for having an open mind. Cube, I would say this is probably the part where people get the most concerned is that for for many people, we feel that the rhetoric and the decisions that have been made by the by the Trump administration over the last four years, put them in a category of alignment with racism and white supremacy. That is so in a different world, that out of that conversation of we know there's white supremacy on both sides, feels like a bit of a cop out in the sense that we know this Trump administration, we know that how is it? How's the truth, a cop out? I mean, it's the truth. And if you can show me that it's not the truth. Let me know. But it's not a cop out. It's the reality of the situation we find ourselves in. And if we are blind to that, we'll continue to find ourselves in it. But you don't know it. Also, everybody, every every person has to make their own decision when they walk in that booth. You know, Ice Cube came make it for him. Hi, 97 k, make a phone, or anybody else. Everybody got to make their own decision. And they got to take all the information that they have gathered, the true facts, and then make that decision. And so I'm the one who's not telling you where to vote. So people shouldn't be skeptical of what I'm saying because I'm not telling you where to vote. Well, that was wrong. Keefe gotta tell people exactly where to vote. And it's Peter Rosenberg. He's a very interesting character. Because when little Wayne came out and endorsed Trump, he's going to infiltrate little Wayne, and I had to come at him on Twitter. I was busy on Twitter the last couple of weeks. I don't know why. I mean, I don't even do social media. But I was gonna say I'm more of a spectator just to read what the currents are. What's, what's going on. But when I saw eviscerate it, and I understand what that word means, it means to disavow. And that's something that used to do when they Lynch people. And it was it was very, it was very lynch mob shove him there. I got to go eviscerate a little Wayne on live. And that's the same terminology, verbatim disavow that would hang you and then dissing value when they lynched you. So that that terminology emerged. You didn't sit well with me and I'll let him know about it. He gets his kicks off of, of tearing down black man who free think freely, but if people of his lineage that are protesting for Trump outside in Brooklyn, pull his guts out. Yeah, him being a Jewish man. Um, it's people in Brooklyn that are being oppressed by Corona. Right, right, right. And they're protesting before Trump, and you hear him say nothing, start with you. And like I said, start with your own first let us clean our house and you clean yours. Thank thank you for thank you for for giving us the definition of eviscerate. That's that, you know, sometimes I wonder how people use. He may he may not even really know what the term means. Well, the fact that I know Yeah, well, me. Yeah. Cuz it's like, well, I'm a terror. I'm open, you know, but why? Why what? I only said that to say this. The shaming, this is their tag that you heard a Karen how to use it. Yeah. You heard him try to do it. Ice Cube. And then the biggest shamer all? Yes, yes. Chelsea the handler. Go.
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  • You heard about my ex boyfriend. Right. 50 cent and her support of
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  • Donald Trump. Yeah, what's going
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  • on with me? I saw your tweets. And I go, Wait, what's happening? Because you said that he was your favorite ex boyfriend. And then he, what does he do supporting Trump?
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  • He says he doesn't want to pay 62% of taxes, which by the way, is in a plan of joe biden's that's that's that's a lie. So he doesn't want to pay 62% of taxes because he doesn't want to go from being 50 cents to 20 cents. And I and I had to remind him that he was a black person. So he can't vote for Donald Trump and that he shouldn't be influencing an entire swath of people who may listen to him, because he's worried about his own personal pocketbook. So I haven't heard back from him yet. But I am willing to, you know, seal the deal and more ways than one if he changes his mind and publicly do now since Donald Trump I might be willing to go for another spin, if you know what I'm talking about.
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  • Yeah, this this was so amazing, not just in what she said. Not just in what she said, because there's so much in there. First of all, you know, you're a black man. No, not even that black person, which I'll just take that as an insult as well. Because if anyone's a black man, it's 50 cent and he's a black man. She, he also never said he was endorsing Trump. He said, I don't want any of this. I don't want this. I don't think it was a good it was a funny joke, huh? And then what does she say at the end? Oh, yeah. And then she said, And oh, by the way, I'm willing to seal the deal. It's like, you know, that's the Democratic Party right there in a nutshell. Here's a little shiny trinket, you can get some of this one a little bit of this. Just do these do what we say remember who you are. If the whole thing was and she got I mean, sure, there was a 24 hours of ball boy, but really, she should never be allowed to appear on the scene anymore by today's standards. Except it wasn't his Go ahead. Right now and smack the what by to say you're not black. Yeah, if you don't vote for me, it's this this. This this this liberal mindset that you were the gatekeepers of blackness? Yeah, we set the parameters and how you align to that is if you're included and not anti black, and for her to offer sex. This goes to Oh, how can a black man turned down a white woman right? Well, you know what, though? Most of these boulais sisters said nothing to her. Yeah, disappointing. But not any other time they'll say any time they say all black men are running out the white women and blah blah blah that's why we can't find a good man. And she comes out and use her sexuality. And really what she did was shamed him not in the sense of about sex. That's not what it was about. It was like you want to make money and Hollywood still right? Yeah, we'll shut you down the same way they did Snoop with the with the Gayle King thing. Yeah, he had to come back with hat in hand with apology. It's these people in Hollywood. They own these people. And I hate to use that word but is not Curtis Jackson but 50 cent not Calvin brothers but Snoop Dogg yeah these personas they own them and making capsule anytime they want to and that's what she was mad at him. Now you you be a good little boy and go vote like you post the black man and I might just throw some sugar on top of it for you. Can I can I can I guess what I heard? Can I shoot her a cancel cannon for a second please. She needs to go man. She needs to go. Well, we have her on the view and she offered some some more besides this summer her dap, a.
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  • Chelsea, you know last week. I'm sorry.
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  • 35 or 34
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  • excuse me, 30 for my dinner, no problem.
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  • Chelsea, you know, last week 50 cent tweeted that he was voting for Trump, because he discovered he would have to pay more taxes under a bidet.
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  • I don't think he said that. Did he say he was voting for Trump? I don't. I don't think he ever said that. I think he did. He says, I think he said the tweet was something like, I'm gonna have to go with Trump. I don't like Trump, but I'm gonna go with him, or something like that. I mean, was eluding me. I'm not gonna call on this because he was he made the, you know, the right but it wasn't a reaction. Yeah, it wasn't the Norsemen of Trump by any means, all right,
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  • because he discovered he would have to pay more taxes under a Biden administration. And you called him out and said he was now your, excuse me, least favorite ex boyfriend. And I don't know where I've been because I didn't even realize that you had dated. But your back and forth with him on Twitter went really viral. And he seems to have backtracked on his support for Trump. Now, have you spoken to him about this? Because it really made a lot of news?
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  • Yes. And I understand. He called me the other night, two nights ago. We spoke for about a half an hour and I you know, I texted him I dm Tim and I said, Can you please call me about this? I don't want this to be public. I, I really want to know if you're serious about supporting Trump. You know, he's and so he called me and he wasn't serious. He was just screwing around on his Twitter. He is supporting Joe Biden, he made that very clear to me. And he said that I was able to tell you girls until any other press, I did that he's supporting Joe Biden. So and then we talked and you know, had a cute little conversation. I did promise, you know, to pay his taxes. And then I found out it's illegal to pay somebody to vote for your candidate yesterday. So I offered him another form of payment, and we'll see if he takes me up on it. But I don't have to pay him. He's already a supporter.
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  • Wow, he offered to pay his taxes. So he went in a swath. It's hard workers I saw off of a few influential people swath.
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  • If that ain't suppression,
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  • and then sunny. No mention of the black comment. Right now. She's all about race, race, race, race, race, race, race, race. softball question. No man, and she knew why we went viral. Because what she said. She said you're not black. If you don't vote, you're saying if you if you don't vote, vote for Joe Biden. So many words, she had to remind him and then she did. She speaks for him. He said that I can tell everybody if 50 said no problem would say anything to anybody ever in life. And now all of a sudden he needs Chelsea the handler to speak for him. Come on. Come on Chelsea, the hands are off. But thank God, thank God. We had one Miss Candace Owens. Yes. That Kate's in defense of 50 cent even if he didn't know he needed it or not.
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  • Chelsea Handler just said, and I quote, she went on to Jimmy Fallon, a couple of nights ago, presumably last night, and she said, I quote, I had to remind him that he is a black man. So he can't vote for Donald Trump. If you are watching this video, and you do not understand how racist that sent out, to remind him that he is a black man. So he can't vote for Donald Trump. How do you look at a black person and tell them what they can? or cannot do? because of the color of their skin and not realize that you are the racist? Less mysterious question I'm asking was open it up. So liberals open up people that don't like me, don't, don't follow my work, don't understand what it is we are talking about as black conservatives. How can you hear a sentence where you say to a black person, as a white person, that you are not allowed to do this because you're black and not realize that you are speaking like a segregationist, like a slave plantation owner, like a racist, like the racist that we have studied and learned about in school.
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  • I know it's fascinating how the how the mind works, people just want Oh, that's fine. It's all good. Fine, whatever. Yeah, and we're talking about the same people on Twitter that would drag Dale for having some kind of hairstyle. But Chelsea Handler, all she could say this and know everybody was quiet that lets you know, she whoever she is, or whoever's behind her, has pin can pull major strings and hi Am I I'm so surprised by this because I have no knowledge of her. I mean, I look at this situation and go, how does she get that cloud? Where's it from? What is it? I maybe it's the only thing I can come up with is because she actually has had a relationship with a black man. So she has some kind of power over him. She has no professional power that I can tell she has no financial power that I can tell. It literally must be that she has had an intimate relation I guess a boyfriend girlfriend relation with at least one black man which most of these people can say. It has to be something like that. I think that it's Hollywood was sending a 50 cent message and she was the messenger of like I said with Snoop Dogg we covered it and wanted to show rose where he went off on Gayle King right and then the very next episode we had to carry cover him coming crashing back. Sorry. Yeah, cuz they know that what now he's all over Corona commercials and everything. He meant, bro, I'm trying to tell you they will Can't they will get you up out of there. Um, but I can't be said that she sounds like a slave owner. Well, let's go talk to our residents. Our slave owner master Episode 38. What has tended to make you more liberal?
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  • that realization that they may grow as a human being like anyone else.
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  • Mr. hasty. What did you think we were before you began to think of us as human beings? Well, no in a way we thought of your most as a very superior pet.
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  • something or other someone
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  • we had to take care of. Because we had to do so much of their thinking for them. We had to do almost everything
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  • for them that except living their own lives anything outside we had to do for them. Wow, man. That's Chelsea Handler Chelsea the handler in a nutshell. In a nutshell, all day. I had to remind him walking around one day, like Oh, thank you Chelsea. I forgot I was a black man. Thank you for calling me reminded me. No problem. 50 You don't have to do thank you for you. Can't you will take care of you. That is amazing. Uh huh. Oh, but moving on. I think the biggest endorsement that Donald Trump was able to garner was one from Little Wayne dam. Mark Lamont Hill has something to say about it. Just when I think things can't get any dumber, Lil Wayne sends out a tweet yesterday. Apparently he met with President Donald Trump and decided that real geez don't move in silence like lasagna. Instead, he wanted to speak out. And he tweets just had a great meeting with real Donald Trump POTUS. Besides what he's done so far with criminal reform, the Platinum plan is going to give the community real ownership. He listened to what we had to say today and assured he will and can get it done. We are days before one of the most important elections in American history, maybe in world history. And little Wayne decides to use his voice politically for the first time to defend to promote to support Donald Trump someone who has been an enemy to his community and enemy to what we think he would value an enemy to everybody who's vulnerable in this country is bad enough that he's selling out but from what I can see he's selling out for free, which is even more disrespectful to the mall atrocity but damn when you're doing this for nothing standing next to the president with your thumb up looking like a hostage while the rest of us suffer as a consequence of your choice. Yes, because you know, Mark Lamont Hill would only do it if he gets paid. Obviously. You're running the market way. Exactly what I'm hearing you're not getting paid for it is no good. Wow. Oh, wow. I will say this that that picture with little Wayne with the film. Oh, that was a bad look. I mean, not not the fact he took a picture with Trump with the thumbs up thing. But I get it. I mean, he went and talked to him and little Wayne's not my ideal endorsement that made me like wow, but right. I will say this little Wayne birth. A lot of what we know about modern hip hop, the face, tats, the dress, the heat to certain people. I think I'm a little older. A little amount remember him like I when he first came out, I was a teenager, but when he actually became one of the best rappers alive right? That generation, the the skinny jeans the a lot of the stuff you see that represents hip hop now represents hip hop now is from Lil Wayne. So he is very influential to a certain demographic. Maybe not my age, but yeah, that is the problem. Now I got little I was shocked. I was like what little way I am you believe you're seeing cancelable? No, no, no, no, I don't think so either. I don't. But I think he was so marginalized musically that I mean, it's not like you're gonna see his sales go down because he was. I mean, his rapper passes prom. But the influence and the way he contributes to hip hop, you can't mean like, I could say the face tats dress skinny jeans skateboarding. Yeah, he brought a lot of this into the modern hip hop. So but Marla might hear what he was he was hot about that like
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  • so let's listen to mark
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  • more and more and Mark Lamont Hill please more than you can say what low Mike's believe what he believes in. He has a right to free speech. He has a right to say what he thinks about the election. True. Except Lil Wayne doesn't do that. In fact, not too long ago, a woman journalist asked Lil Wayne what he thought about Black Lives Matter. Only young black rich. Dad, let you know that America understand black matter these days.
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  • Man, my life matter.
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  • He ended our interview.
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  • Not a politician. You just want to talk about rappers want to talk about music, use want to buy clothes, whatever, whatever you want to talk about, except for politics, then why use this moment right now to do this. And if you don't do it, why do it for Donald Trump? But it's not just Wayne, my dear brother Ice Cube sitting next to Donald Trump. I understand that he has a plan for black America and he's not endorsing Donald Trump. He did not endorse Donald Trump. But ice cube is still standing next to Donald Trump in a way that makes him seem like he is a reasonable a viable option to advance the black agenda. 50 cent stood up and said that he's gonna vote for Trump because he doesn't want to pay high taxes. Now whether he was serious or not, I can't say for sure. But the fact that he said it, legitimize what many people have to say, and this is what's so disturbing. Brothers. We are the lowest common denominator right now. We are the weakest link right now. Not all black men. I'm not saying that I'm talking about those people in public who are standing up and standing next to Donald Trump. Brothers. We are the lowest common denominator leave that shit man. Way to talk yourself down MHL MLH if you don't think like them, you know share their their liberal mindset. They want to get rid of you. But I find that interesting, because not too long ago, and Mark Lamont Hill was cancelled. Oh yeah. They redeemed him out the scrap heap to come out the black man but let's listen to him getting cancelled. Last week, a CNN contributor a commentator the network had on its payroll delivered a speech at the United Nations in support of Palestinian self determination and equal rights. Less than 24 hours later, CNN was done with Mark Lamont Hill. When you boil it down, he was fired for using the following six words from the river to the sea that was deemed anti semitic heels dismissal came on the heels of a seemingly coordinated attack by pro Israel groups that have come to have a large say over what constitutes acceptable discourse on Palestine in the US by willfully conflating legitimate criticism of Israel with anti semitism, and then convincing news outlets to do the say. It wasn't that long ago that cnn adopted the slogan facts first. When it comes to Israel, though, it's much more complicated than that. Some facts are clearly more inconvenient than others. Yeah, remember, this was weird. Ain't that funny. He was canceled by a group of people that determines what's acceptable discourse. But then he turned around and does it to little Wayne, and try to get him cancel because of what he deems what acceptable discourse is. It's amazing. And then they look they let him come back. They say mark, you want to end like yes. If If fix Mark fix it. Yeah. And then he goes out there and talks down a little all how stupid he could be. And then he says Ice Cube was standing next to Donald Trump. Which, if you want to say figuratively No, not really. But he meant it that put the imagery in your mind the same way with little Wayne. And that's why he kind of wheezes weaseled his way back out of it but he left the note Little thought in your head of a pitcher with ice cube but his thumb up standing beside Donald Trump, right? So it's amazing. And another one counsel for what you know. Six months six words where God got him up out of here and crazy. That's crazy from the river to the sea. Got him done. It was over for Mark. You haven't seen mark on anything itself per day chart and Marvel I get I'll get little Wayne. Let me let me let me let me let me get back coach. Right. Wow. Well, that pretty much wraps up he's, he's off the Christmas list. This guy. I'm not sending him any man. Mark is cheese. And then the key tale is brothers. Brothers brothers. Me brothers. Sure. Mm hmm. My mom, I don't know you. I'm brothers. But just what you thought you couldn't hear anything crazier than that? Yeah. Oh, Maxime. I love me some maxine waters in the morning. Somehow, if they go into support,
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  • realize some big sums of money
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  • that's going to come to them
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  • to some damn proposals that they're going to present. And they better be taken care of. And they're going to be able to manage all of this much. They are crazy. They're not going to get a dime for these people. They don't even know how to put together the right kind of proposal to even be considered in this way that government works and how you have to get through the House and the Senate, and all these committed, even in order to get to the president to sign something, and he's not gonna sign a darn thing. He's a racist. He does not have any appreciation for black people or black women in particular. He's talked about it's so bad. He talked about john lewis so bad. He talked about coming so bad. He has no respect for us. He's not doing anything for us. And for those black young men who think somehow they can align themselves with Trump, Trump,
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  • not only that terminate mistaken, mistaken
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  • any of them showing their face. I will never ever forgive them. But undermining that possibility to have their own people and their own communities. It is absolutely unconscionable. It is shameful. Wow. Man. Maxie never disappoints. Back, save his thumbnails. Maxine, how long have you been in office? She's been in a long time, man. She'd been in 35 years. Ice Cube got more done in a weekend? I mean, like you did in all your What? You couldn't even get them to make a commitment to him, the democrats and say, hey, at least talk to him before the you know, the election. Well, it's not on the table. But the thing that was really insulting was her saying she just basically paraphrasing You're so dumb. You don't even know how government works. You don't know what it takes? Excuse me. grade school. You get some civics? Yeah, I think you know, we've all seen the cartoon. Here's the bill. Here's how the bill gets passed. We understand for her to say that was super insulting about anybody. Like she Oh my goodness. What are the demographic because she taught to like that. Gosh, you're so right. Everyone be up in arms. I mean, I i think i sent this clip to you with the from the minute I saw it. Yeah, of course. You know, my eyes are peeled. But you're right. No, it's no serious. Just fill that blank. blank. Not a single demographic could well you could say it to white men because whatever, you know, but it's that might have been she might have gotten pushback for that. But this Yeah, it's unconscionable. People represent us she's supposed to and and Maxine knows what time it is. She was one told us all about the drug running and all that and then she she gets in bed with them. That's why I have no respect for maxine waters. Because you know what time it was with the Arkansas Little Rock cartel and the bushes and all of that. And then you got your your beak wet. And then all of a sudden you rolled over and played and played and played the good soldier. So Maxine, you can miss me with that. And you can call us despicable. Whatever. We'll see you on the fourth. Yes. And everybody all politics really is local. Everyone talks about the presidency. But this is this what's going on. This is where the rubber meets the road. With your local representatives, your state representatives, Maxine Weiss amazing she is still allowed to be that she keeps getting voted back in. You got to vote a lot of these people out you got to make the change. And you may not be voting for you may not be voting at all. But make your voice known one way or the other.
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  • Because change has to come.
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  • And I will say this
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  • even if you don't vote, and I don't tell anybody what to do, but even if you don't vote, you have a responsibility to be engaged in the political process. That means understanding what's going on what what voting or not voting, voting impacts you personally and your, the people around you. So I don't want to hear people say, Oh, well, out of laziness, not voting. mana strategic. And you know, that's my personal choice, do what's best for you, but don't do anything out of ignorance. So I will say that, and mo thank you for another fun episode. I think this was this was kind of the the cherry on top. So everyone sees what's going on, what's the stake, where the battle is taking place, it's going to be super interesting tomorrow, and the next three or four weeks, however long it takes. It could be it could be over in 24 hours. We don't know that is the great American experiment. And I'm very pleased to be a part of this chapter in American history. And I could not be more proud to be going through this chapter with you mo and I really appreciate it. Man, it's been it's been a ball every episode and hopefully people understand why we do what we do to inform people of the narratives. And I will say just a prediction. Um, I think things are going to be a lot different after this point in time, and as I always say, pay attention to everything in the truth will reveal itself always has that nasty way of doing it. Although for this show, a nasty we'd love it. Come on truth. It's always fun to see you poke your head up. Hey, Mo Thank you so much, man. Have a have a great week. I mean, we'll be texting we'll be in touch and I'm sure we'll be doing another mo fax within a week or so depending on where the state of the universe is. Out of my talk to you later. Have a good one. Thanks man, YouTube, and for all of you listening please remember this is a value for value program and production. You can support us by sending your time your talent your treasure. To mo fax comm direct to our donation page at mo fund me.com mo EFUND me.com
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  • 28. What is MFAC explained (DONATION)..mp3
  • 28a. Strollin’ - SNL.mp3
  • 29. What's The Deal With #BlameBlackMen 1.mp3
  • 30. What's The Deal With #BlameBlackMen 2.mp3
  • 31. What's The Deal With #BlameBlackMen 3.mp3
  • 32. TBC52 - Ice Cube Clears Up Decision To Work w Trump, His Plan To Help Black Community, + Working w Diddy 3.mp3
  • 33. Chelsea Handler Is a Halloween Scrooge 1.mp3
  • 34. Chelsea Handler on Stand-Up Special 'Evolution' & Call With 50 Cent About Supporting Trump 1.mp3
  • 35. Candace Owens IG live Responds to Chelsea Handler Says DON'T TELL 50 CENT NOT TO VOTE FOR TRUMP 1.mp3
  • 36. TBC38 -The Heritage of Slavery (1968) w Fannie Lou Hamer & Lerone Bennett, Jr. (Massa Speaks) 3.mp3
  • 37. Marc Lamont Hill on Lil' Wayne Endorsing Donald Trump 1.mp3
  • 38. Marc Lamont Hill on Lil' Wayne Endorsing Donald Trump 2.mp3
  • 39. 🇺🇸 The six words that got Marc Lamont Hill fired from CNN The Listening Post 1.mp3
  • 40. Maxine Waters Black Male Trump Voters Are Despicable To Their Families & I Will Never Forgive Them 1.mp3
  • 99. Marvin Gaye - Life Is A Gamble.mp3
  • 02. Some Black male voters say they feel disenfranchised by both political parties 1.mp3
  • 03. Some Black male voters say they feel disenfranchised by both political parties 2.mp3
  • 04. SHOW 0001-Do black voters hold the key to the presidential election 1.mp3
  • 05. TBC49 - Black Male Voter Project encouraging Black men to vote 1.mp3
  • 06. Some Black male voters say they feel disenfranchised by both political parties 3.mp3
  • 07. Violence erupts after fatal police shooting in Philadelphia 1.mp3
  • 08. SHOW 0001-Do black voters hold the key to the presidential election 2.mp3
  • 09. CNN is freaking out about Republican turnout in Florida.mp3
  • 10. SHOW 0001-Obama and Clinton urge African-Americans to vote 2.mp3
  • 11. NBA legend MAGIC JOHNSON cuts ad endorsing Joe Biden and Kamala Harris 1.mp3
  • 12. Lebron James Pushes Back Against Misinformation Aimed At Black Voters Deadline MSNBC 1.mp3
  • 13. Lebron James Pushes Back Against Misinformation Aimed At Black Voters Deadline MSNBC 2.mp3
  • 14. Lebron James Pushes Back Against Misinformation Aimed At Black Voters Deadline MSNBC 3.mp3
  • 15. 'All net' Barack Obama hits silky three-pointer on campaign trail 1.mp3
  • 16. Flint scene - Fahrenheit 11 9 (2018) Michael Moore 1.mp3
  • 17. Flint scene - Fahrenheit 11 9 (2018) Michael Moore 2.mp3
  • 18.. TBC23 - Tavis Smiley Black America Lost Ground Under Obama 1.mp3
  • 19. TBC23 -Tavis Smiley Black America Lost Ground Under Obama 2.mp3
  • 20. TBC45 - America's Great Divide, Part 1 (full film) FRONTLINE 3.2.mp3
  • 21. Obama Says Blacks Must Take Responsibility 1.mp3
  • 22. Obama's advocacy for black males 1.mp3
  • 23. Obama's advocacy for black males 2.mp3
  • 24. TBC44 - Donald Trump makes pitch to black voters 2.mp3
  • 25. TBC49 -Could Trump Win More Black Voters in November Than in 2016 1.mp3
  • 26. TBC46 - Karen Hunter On The Black Male Vote (2020) 1.5.mp3
  • 27. Charlamagne Tha God tells Don Lemon Trump is actually talking to young black male voters 1.mp3

• Music in this Episode
  • Intro: 50 Cent - Many men
  • Outro: Marvin Gaye - Life is a gamble

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