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  • My bad, my bad, my bad. My bad. My bad. I don't encourage drunk see you tomorrow. I am Sunday, June 24th, 2018 15 your award-winning donation media Nation episode 45. This is No Agenda going to make it to my phone off or anything. Oh, wait a minute. I see this is why people tune into the the pre-show on the Stream.
  • They think they is like like I'm Q I'm dropping breadcrumbs. I said I'm making toast and I guess you did a whole toast song or what did you do when I was out I did I had the tone on the recorder. Damn did hopefully someone recorded it. I don't think they need you guys can play that we own. Oh, that's okay. It's fine. I'll get the less. Seriously. I'll get the recording. It's it's it's really okay.
  • I thought it was going to be a boring weekend.
  • Until okay, what made you think that you know, it would just be the same, you know, we can't find the children. The children are being drugged Hitler Nazi, you know, I thought would be a difficult weekend for you know, today's today's news network coverage that we got interrupted every channel. Everyone was flipping out.
  • Tom Arnold has tapes.
  • You probably didn't see any of this digit. I got a clip. I have a couple of a couple of Clips. I would love to hear your well. My clip is about his threatening the president and not answering questions. In fact, I left the pauses in but decided that cuz it's just dead. Are you guys he's coked up. He I think my my Clips proved that too. Yeah, and he decides to see won't answer questions. So he just doesn't say anything and the girl doesn't move along. So I filled
  • Hey, well I should I just do my Clips first and then we can do your mind. Then you can find Mike to be a good in the background to this. I don't know if it's explained in your C and N Clip the background is several months ago. There was this announcement by Feist the Tom Arnold was going to do a show going after the Trump tapes and and and it was like and we saw the I think we might have even played the trailer. It was funny. It's like, okay the guys going to end. It's Mike. So fine. He's going after the tapes these guys Vice by the way is not a media organization is an advertising agency. So they know exactly what they're doing. And then I guess Arnold was tweeting out pictures of him and Michael Cohen and referring to tapes and so somehow oh is my my clippers? Perfect. Yeah, and I'll just say that somehow I believe and I basically took a piece from the call Wallace cuz she's so annoying and I thought the two
  • To them together will be fun to listen to somehow there was this confusion thinking that apparently Tom Arnold has access to the pee pee tape in Russia or something like that. It was very amusing and they were and and it was all the Prime Time Shows on Pooper idiots. I would this guy came in trolled everybody as far as I'm concerned but I think is watching this interview and he owes Bible Cohen and I what I leave here. I'm going to go back to the Regency with final code, which is listed first just to take to send you this and I'm going to spend the weekend with Michael Cohen and the president Donald Trump mocking Trump. I'm spending the weekend hanging out with Michael Cohen, and there's a lot going on. You've treated you disrespected him and his family and there's a lot going on so he gets to sleep. That's that's good enough for me. You are going to spend the weekend with Michael and the president's former.
  • Can I have one person at a time if he can buy the way we've seen this before we seen this who is the last guy who came on with Erin Burnett Burnett on CNN who was drunk?
  • I think it's a problem as likely there's a problem with bringing people on who are this wasted he's totally wasted even I can hear it. I'm not really good at recognizing that but yes, he's clearly they just it's kind of abusive say they're all these people that were there were friends that I've got one person at a time. Hello people for Trump's world. Did Michael call and tell you specifically that he is working with the authorities that he has agreed to cooperate with the authorities in their investigations.
  • This is too important to me to have around you know, the word I'm talkin about and I have a 5 year old son A2 year old daughter and that's really why I do the show and we're having fun with these Trump tapes, but this is seriously Poppy and I'm not messing around. I don't know. I don't know you think I did Michael call and tell you to Simply really just yes or no. The key is cooperating with the authorities should charges be brought. I saw that I think it works better with the video job. If you tell you not want to answer the question.
  • You don't want to answer the question or okay.
  • Will you let us know what you learn over the weekend weekend of Michael Cohen? Thank you for being here, Harley to appreciate it. Okay. Wow, I kind of like the incoherent version more that he had with Nicole Wallace. Well actually not incoherent. He was just completely mumbling just spouting stuff off and to me it was very entertaining. I didn't think about this until you mentioned it. By the way. That was my edit. I saw someone else did a version of that the
  • That you mentioned which is I didn't think about it, but not you messed it it yeah, it's abuse. This is another example of this guest abuse but the other guy on his Coke to the gills. Yeah barely talk and then you just can't keep a coherent thought he's so gone and and then you just and then you let him sit there silently for that period of time asking that question that he won't answer and he just sits there looking at the camera and be freaked out rubbing it. It's really bad. It's just horrible. I'm professional and here's MSNBC The Great NBC News organization abusing him some more with Nicole Wallace. This is the intro lesson. Now my mission is to to get him out of there because he's so incompetent it is so dangerous and every day, you know what this week with the children being ripped for their parents. I mean, he's obviously
  • They race instead. He has racial to play around in his cruel and he lies it it just the trauma that he's putting on all of America every day and it's just changing everything about what we are as a country. It is so unsafe I would American Rivers is eventually it's going to be trying to rush on our border. I know seems crazy stock up in Russia. I'm going to be on our borders. This is why I like this it seems crazy but he's just changing everything about the fabric of our country, but it's just awful. And so, you know, I'm glad that my my friend Michael Cohen is is is with us. Okay, he's with us like he's dead and he's my friend Michael Cohen is with us. He's watching is now so of course around what time what do you have? What do you have on these tapes in this?
  • Nowhere in the interview is really been explained that he has this TV show but what do you have on it? What kind of tapes do you have? The PJ? What is the power what is on the tape that you're going to release on on on your right? Obviously about Donald Trump. He's this this President. I mean, he's not tape the stuff that's available to the public already should be just right for a guy to to rent a car for it. I mean he started day one. I like this logic stuff. You said that's on tape that we've heard to disqualify them from renting a car. I don't know like a China with the social ranking or something. Maybe he might not get the Hertz Gold Line, but I think it can still be taking his voice to say his father had given him his money and he was really a building. Here's a man who in his inebriation. It's just letting it all spelled out. That's really what's happening here. And it's just he's reaching Back to Before the election before the real campaign.
  • So just anything you can throw out there. It's just spewing out to be there and it's sad. He said he's he's admitted to walking in the Miss Teen Universe Pageant to see them naked and brag about that on Howard Stern Show. The stuff is for public consumption already is it's just horrible that and and you know that I heard he uses the n-word and he calls Eric the r word for the where's that tank? We want to hear him call his own son a retard. Hey, we want people with you know, it's just discussing sexual harassment takes to the women on the set of The Apprentice. So when I heard this, I knew immediately he's got absolutely nothing. This is going to be a series ten twelve episodes will have little drips and drabs will keep expecting something to pop at the end. It never will be like Heraldo safe the Elkins safe. Yeah. I got to find any tape Mark Burnett is not giving up any tapes, so he's got some
  • The most of it's going to be Howard Stern stuff. I'm sure and here is just a little more about the president and also he did not win the election without help Russia see this and he knows he's in with you mentioned it he freaks out and that's karma.
  • Okay, I'm not sure how the karma fits into it now. Now another one of my favorite topics which Nicole picks up. She's the one that's every afternoon on MSN, but she's thinking what are these deals going to flip they're going to fricking to put if I get some sleep now, who's my lawyer? I don't know that guy. He's like, you know, he sold his wife. She's like, oh my God, I got to take care of my family. Cuz this guy is the worst thing he ever did he think he was going to cooperate with prosecutors of the rest of us Jews.
  • Not care about his family and it's over. He does also does want me she doesn't want to be harassed by dogs. So cuz he is the president I say still probably has a bunch of Jews Michael Cohen probably has a bunch of dudes jump just so you know don't harass the presidents got a bunch of do Donald Trump cuz he is surprised I say still and he probably has a lot to do my toes going to take care of his family and his country first. That's all you need to know. Think about that. Yeah. I'll think about that so so know about it. No now here's what you can clearly hear this confusion about the doll video, but let me ask you more questions for you one. We know that what was seized from his offices included a lot of audio and recording so he promised to share those with you might want to make that clear. He's getting anybody. He probably broke. I mean they shouldn't even say that
  • Michael College, I did not make any promises with me working on your trying to go and look cuz he has all the tapes and in fact some of those have my car. My name is on those.
  • All right, final clip. Of course, he was married to Roseanne Barr. So we should probably bring up the ex-wife. Let me get my last question started out your first and can you talk to ride to your ex wife Rosanna? Yes. How did she end up so far on the other side of the trunk from you and I was talking to I spent a lot of time last bus talking to her daughter and they see a lot of these Iowa, you know, we're talkin about his mother says I think she got into and then he goes off onto a tangent and the Shaggy Dog story. Yes, and it comes back here I come back. How do I think she got into your blank? Yep? Yep. Yeah, he does.
  • It is wife and it's running lost my best friend. She's a truck guy. Like it just people just get sucked in there. Now Rose at his full on with the Nazis that the racist it's just crazy crazy crazy just so I know Rosanna it's form with the Nazis and the races and the crazy crazy crazy. Just so you know, I don't know how you get in there. I think mental health and putting that stuff. You know, it's rigged. Is there a gaseous everybody and they also need the Seminary so much information. I didn't drive it to the information that says that they specifically, you know, it's not just Fox News, but it's boxes and the internet stuff and it's like a drug Donald Trump is the Kingpin he was perpetuated. That's why you have to go to he's the Kingpin of this drug that people are just too many people sick of this country. He's got to go will I take them back when you're right specialist in many areas the series beautiful. I love you.
  • Series Nicole we won't get to it an episode 1. It's a series. I'm Tom Arnold. I will get rid of that Scourge Donald Trump.
  • Not like my ex-wife who was with the Nazis and they're going to have to cancel that that that series.
  • Oh, no, they're not going to cancel that. You heard it on this show. Really you think they're going to cancel it why he's acting like this. This is that come on. This is what these guys thrive on they love this this they always have stupid stuff like this. It's kind of buildings. Not as bad as I mean you're making it sound like they're just running another version of Jackass.
  • Yeah. Yeah, I'd say Vice is running a hello. Tom. Freston is the guy who shepherding this whole deal former CEO of MTV networks. Yeah.
  • It's an advertising agency. Yeah. No, I understand the advertising agency aspect, but this guy's
  • The problem with guys like this they turn on everybody.
  • And unless you got some dope.
  • Well, yeah, if you keep me supplied with something to need then we're all good to go but I find it I find a little sad just I mean they was it was such emotional rape of this guy just and he was on Lawrence O'Donnell with everybody had him on it and kind of half smiling but oh, you know this let him let him go on and on and on and on a beautiful great understand especially in this is just ruination of their credibility do they have but this isn't helping and I listen to the guy he's incoherent yeah and they're taking him seriously cuz they may have some some Goods on Trump. That's how hard up they are. Yeah, I think so.
  • I truly think so, you know the the bullet and the if you listen to all of the interviews he did he he really Michael Cohen is really not giving him anything Michael Combs not really cooperating. You know, it's just it's just
  • trolling he trolled for his TV show. That's they have to let it go on who pees it will be stupid not to it would be stupid to cancel the Jeep. I'm going to stick with my theory. I don't see why why would have to stop why not deep for one thing. He's got nothing. He he he sold them a bill of goods. They're making it's going to make them look stupid or then they are OSHA not producing this. They just brought him his his a host. He has nothing he had some sales pitch to do with this or he wouldn't be home at all. This guy. No one no one's having a meeting of Executives the saint. Well who were going to have to be the host? I've got an idea Arnold. That's the guys you don't you know, you don't know I don't buy it. Yeah. Hey David Hasselhoff brought down the wall. So yeah, you know if you if you take it online is it might take that take that line of thinking you never know.
  • What Tom Arnold could do? Yeah, and he had he had to be the guy to push the sales of this payment in a bunch of guys that guy just see if I see Executives and him with a huge pile of white powder. That's a great idea. Oh, yeah, go ahead a great friend of mine hang out with him. Probably. Anyway, it made the weekend a little more entertaining because it started off like this for the images suggest to the concentration camps families being part of children are being marched away two showers. Another being March the way to showers are they're being told they are just like the Nazis. It said that they were taking people showers in the never came back.
  • This nation into Nazi Germany entering these into concentration camps. What's happening is very American in that. This is how the country was founded. This is what happens Seventy-Six years ago to Japanese-Americans in internment camps and I look I know we're not Nazi Germany. All right, but there is a commonality there. It will be controversial but I felt a warning so it's so concerned about what's going on. Yeah that are all of us are so concerned. We see these heartbreaking images and it's so very possible. This is a policy that is in Humane and decent on American completely dictatorial. And like I said yesterday they are the tactics that have been used through the through history by the worst purveyors of people including slave-traders, including Nazis, including parents, and now he's using them as well and we should all be ashamed they were commentators like Joe, Scarborough Brina.
  • Not the N word is changed. We have a day. Yes. We have let you yes the n-word the stands for nothing. We can finally use the n-word again, but I have about three Clips. I don't have a boss rats reclipsen, check. Is there something I realized that I mean for one thing. The thing were noticing is that Trump signed and stinks. Okay. We stop in this which is what they wanted him to do, but apparently have so many things planned.
  • Protests and yeah straight. Yes, and it's I found it actually march on the same organization did the kids march with the against the guns that's planned. It's done. They they are they are running the march on the 30th that's happening. No matter what and so and appointed their March is to get Democrats elected. There you go. Let's Play Secrets. Yeah. I think it's going to I think people are getting annoyed by this.
  • I think it's going to hurt Democrats personally, but let's go with all hell breaking loose Trump rap.
  • president Trump rally in Las Vegas Democrat immigration
  • Again, some of his death last night, press secretary standard picked out of Virginia restaurant will at dinner with family and friends the owner telling the Washington Post. She has to leave on moral grounds including separating immigrant families separation of that was pretty interesting. Actually how I did you did a little research on the whole thing. It actually stems from the gay staff. Okay? No, I didn't know I didn't realize this. Yeah, the gay staff was sent me the gays refusing to serve someone mind sufficiently blown sir. So the gay staff apparently bitch to their Sous chefs a man and a woman
  • They could be gay too, but bitched them saying that she was there and they they didn't want to surf Joe her. Although they were surveyed. They just gave her orders and stuff, but they were complaining to the chef who was running the place at the time and so the chef doesn't know what to do and it can't make a decision which is always a bad sign. So he calls the owner the owner drives over to make sure cuz no one is absolutely positive. It was Sarah Sanders and so she comes over and then has to talk with her in the back patio saying that it's against the principles of the restaurant that they you know this whatever you some song and dance in the dance centers degree to leave.
  • But yeah, it was it was a half with the stuff just didn't want it server. That's not that's it seemed well, you know before you move on before you finish the I'll do it right after this clip is done and I say far more about her than about me the funny thing. This was written up in the the kind of an interesting.
  • Publication called heavy the staff because it was a gay issue that they were bitching about and it was over the trumps refusal that transgenders in the Army. So it had nothing to do with the kids in cages know and no this is Miss rude, but I think the woman who owned us the the restaurant used. She's the one who introduced that topic so it wasn't really miss report. It just was under-reported. But I was reading this about the complaining about transgenders not be able to serve in the military and I'm thinking when did the Democrats and the you know be so Pro military and they all want to serve and go to war no no, no stop stop stop. This is where you're making thinking mistake.
  • The gays do not like the trans.
  • They don't like they're not saying gays in the military, you know, don't ask don't tell all that no trans. They hate trans people in general. There is a huge Rift between gay men and Trans Ams for FM doesn't matter which way they're going so, of course they're going to say that
  • It's actually it's actually quite rude and aggressive.
  • I find the whole thing to be off center. But the Finish is the owner a redhead in Lexington, Virginia to leave because I work for POTUS and I politely left her actions say far more about her than about me. I want to know you should ask for The Campaign Committee for the take back of the house tonight.
  • The tolerance policy I did enjoy the feeling of families being separated and now are scrambling to implement the executive order separation of families and Senior officials. Tell me that allows children to stay for more than 20 days vote on that bill could come as early as Tuesday night. It's so stupid this whole thing and you were right about the I was thinking that the next outrage would be my grandchildren drug without consent and besides the fact that news media can't discuss Pharmaceuticals in that manner.
  • This also be really started in 2010 Obama's years and there's lawsuits that deal specifically was twenty ten and forcibly injecting children was like a Tropic drugs. Yeah. So yeah, so we're not going to lose. Sorry about that. We're not going to bring that up and Kirsten Nielsen was they went the protesters went to her house and we're in front of her house playing the the sound of the crying children and chanting and I know this of course is is encouraged by members of Congress and put up a list here of democratic colleagues of yours have called for the resignation of Chris and Neil from the Secretary of Homeland Security in light of what we've seen happen over in the last few days. Are you going to add your name to those ranks? Do you think she should step aside? Oh absolutely. She should step aside. You know, I have no sympathy but these people that are in this Administration who, you know know it's wrong.
  • What they're doing on so many fronts, but they tend to not want to confront this president or even leave but they know what they're doing is wrong and I want to tell you but these members of his cabinet Who Remain and tried to defend him they're not going to be able to go to a restaurant and not going to be able to stop at a gas station then not going to be the shop at a department store. The people are going to turn on them and going to protest they got absolutely harassed them until they decide that they're going to tell the president. No, I can't hang with you. This is wrong. This is unconscionable. We can't keep doing this to children. That's right. Just grass everybody. Yeah, that's good. That's politics. I want her ass everybody at home.
  • Hillary Clinton raised one and a half million dollars to code help families separated at the border. Oh, she's a genius which went to all the chip in organizations. Yeah sure, but I think I think it's important because she needed to show that she can still raise money and that's why I think she jumped all over this right to show. Hey I said I yeah because she's still running. I still got it. She's going to run again. I don't the Democrats have got nobody now here in the years. If this is the weird after Trump trump signed off on it and in this particular to put maybe even a local clip, but whatever it was network, but it had Cate Kamala Harris Kamala Harris Campbell. It depends on what part of the state you're from who is our senator who is wants to be the next president. She's the black woman. She's not that bright and she says what she says in this particular clip she comes out and says
  • Disqualify she's never email to get nominated. But this is again everybody going to Trump signed off to the end of the the whole thing. But no no, no everyone's still going nuts. The immigration controversy has ignited not only protest but also efforts to help migrant families at the center of the crisis. Here's Carter Eva Marie.
  • Mr. Bean, his mother's had shared their stories their personal stories that are a story of Human Rights abuses committed by the United States. And that's one of the person that comes things. I am still planning to bring it to the border and the Central American country of El Salvador Omar. Vianca. Is there with a story of
  • Okay in kill that so more I'm watching this I get I keep getting the sense because of a quick we played the last show that there's some cover-up going on of something else. Well, then it began touring their bomb Administration. Well, I have a thought about that. It's not necessarily A cover-up, but there is a real issue.
  • The office of refugees and resettlement. I think it is r o r r i mean if they have about one and a half billion dollars in contracts that are written out to mainly and you've seen a lot of them in the news reporting to religious groups churches. That's why you see clergy showing up talking about all this can't be because you know, a lot of this is it's all commercial business. So, you know, yeah, we got to stop it cuz it's an outrage but it will come at the expense of everybody. We hooked up with these, you know, it's 3 to $500 nice and fees for taking care of the refugees resettling them to their the one by the way that I think this is not I think this is part of a bigger scam. Yes, and I talked about this specific you actually brought it up sometime back. Yeah.
  • And I'm I was hearing this other stuff and this is the clip The Next Step. I want to place a short clip but it reminds me of the clip that we play on the last show about the by eight months ago about the kid from Guatemala that was you know, foster home they on they and any broad and back now, they ship them back to Guatemala to another family. There was he was really settled in and then I heard this clip and I got very now I'm getting very skeptical. She this is the immigration kid in NYC but there are still more than 1,800 that other agencies separated from their parents among them eight year old Danny. He's in New York. His mother being detained in El Paso facing charges after crossing the border illegally his antler Serano trying to reunite and South half of processing center has not responded.
  • We've already bought the bus ticket ready to go. She is not even aware that she's not coming home taking the world and what I'm thinking here, they were detained in El Paso. And now all of a sudden the kids in New York. Yes, how do they get shuffled off to New York like overnight? It seems like they're it seems like child thievery and they're all ending up in these foster homes in various systems that are getting government money and you get paid per head. Yes per night or per head per night. So you're getting money. I mean, it seems like they're just stealing these kids on purpose and this isn't some hear you.
  • Come stay. There you go. The number one point five billion dollars a year for these organizations who took these you call in kids. They were eighteen. Nineteen year old dudes look like okay. Maybe there's sixteen Seventeen. These were boy young men young men with ankle monitors. The ankle monitors is not from Ice. It's not from Department of Homeland Security. It's from these organizations who are shuttling the kids putting them in these different places. Remember that Obama specifically wanted to bring a lot of syrians to Detroit. I mean this placement program has been in place for a while now and a million and a half billion of 1.5 billion dollars. That's a lot of money.
  • Yeah, that's a lot of money. Yeah, and so especially for cronies. So this is nothing new and and they're just the only reason it's gotten so much attention recently because of the because one thing they wanted to get Miller who's always, you know, it's hard job. I mean girls doubles and they and and they started this know, I guess what's no you can't make any mistakes was it goal is zero zero tolerance policy, which makes everybody have to get into the system instead of just the select ones that they would have to shuffle around. I did I would suspect that kid from Guatemala and then this kid in New York, but the fact that is a kid in New York in the mom and El Paso. How did the kid get to New York? Why is he in New York? How is this the same as putting the kids in the kids in cages? It's not the same at all. This is some underlying scam has been going on for quite some time. So that I have here is
  • Orr
  • Orr is not a government agency Orr is just a just a non-profit who receives funding from the government and they award about about an average of 1.4 billion per year since 2002. It has 26 immigrants shelters that it runs and the ones that we've been that one that we seen on the news the Walmart Supercenter in Brownsville.
  • I have $256 per night per person is what they get, but this is this is a very well-established big Network. And yeah, you know, you said you said they're stealing babies. They're stealing children as interesting. You put it that way because who knows what these guys are doing? What's the oversight who has oversight of who has been looking at them at all? Maybe they're you know, you say cover up here. Maybe they're all scrambling shit. We didn't track these kids. I knew we forgot something.
  • I mean, it doesn't sounds like it's you make trafficking the base.
  • Yeah, it does. Well, maybe we'll come out. I don't know but it seems like I mean, I think you're not buying flat-footed because I think this is the corruption is deep into the all these systems that have been in place since I don't know they may have begun before Obama. Probably, but you don't know.
  • Abuse isn't any border is not something new for any Administration. I would say.
  • But luckily we had the celebrities out in force and Entertainment Tonight to sum it all up to tell us how we should think stars are speaking out Mexican horror stories. This is beyond inhumane.
  • Or by the current Administration shocking decision to separate asylum-seeking immigrant families. So meanwhile policy cruel and immoral and horrible Alyssa Milano said the humanity, I don't care. What a few more outrage just pissed off just on the ocean. That's just yelling yelling at each other on television. I got one final one from MSNBC. This is Peter M.
  • Person who the Hitler Meme and it kind of screwed it up here. I want to get your reaction to a tweet by President Trump yesterday. He wrote we must maintain a strong Southern border. We cannot allow our country to be overrun by illegal immigrants as the Democrats tell their phony stories of sadness and grief hoping it will help them in the elections Obama and others have the same pictures and did nothing about it. I don't know where to begin. First of all they were not the same I look I don't know where the germs you know, it's true. But okay, what is your response the response to anyone who's read history would give that is you have to begin the process of turning people into animals by the human dehumanizing. Sorry to miss pronounce the humanity Isaac. He's trying to say you got like the Jews the Jews are subhuman their animal. Yeah, that's what he was trying to say, but he he got messed up there any yeah we choked. Yeah.
  • What did not help and this was very curious to me is Melania Trump's jacket.
  • So she wore this jacket and the biggest defense quite honestly is it was a Zara jacket from last season, I mean, please that was insulting but it said I really don't care do you on the back and it was I think you could see that in two ways and and the minute the news hit I you know ran off to the social needs to take a look and indeed, you know large portion of people thinking how it doesn't care about the fake news mainstream media a large portion of people saying doesn't care about the children. They they literally read it that way sure that's a classic Dimension a dimension be break. Now the the crazy thing about it is that her spokes whole said no. No, there's no message. That was the mistake.
  • They don't understand there's no message. And then the president comes out there in tweets. Oh, it was clearly a message towards the fake news media. So they got to come over here. They stepped in it. But what this can only end One Way violence someone's going to get that's what by Rush Limbaugh says that someone's going to get shot. Again. Rush Limbaugh has been saying that for over a week that there any blaming the mainstream media cuz they're the ones that are Fanning the Flames by running all these stories could be just as easily ignored. They're not that you know, it's not like it's breaking news. She wore a jacket and there's just looking for trouble and they're looking to get stuff. Yeah going to be violent. Somebody's going to get shot. So they're fueling it. But what's happening with the social Associates? That's where people are losing really losing their minds and I have
  • Too short clips one about the Socialist in general than one about Trump which and I didn't play these on the last show, cuz we I had the piece of interview from Jaron Lanier who wrote the book about you have to delete that. He said he said something really interesting here that I hadn't considered about the algorithms of social media and how and why people are going insane when they take to Twitter. So you have the machine. The machine is 24/7. It's the news networks. It's the news programs. It's print you know, it's it's the Time Magazine cover with the child who was never separated from her mother which you know activates a whole different group of people, but the algorithms do something which I hadn't considered and that I think explains why we're in the trouble we're in today in traditional behaviorism. You would give an animal or a person a little treat like candy or maybe an electric shock and you go back and forth between positive and negative feedback and when researchers try to deter
  • Wizard positivity or negativity is more powerful there roughly a parody. They're both important, but the difference with social media is that the algorithms that are are following you respond very quickly. They're looking for the quick responses and the negative responses like getting startled. They're scared or irritated or angry tend to rise faster than the the positive response was like building trust or feeling good those things rise more slowly. So the algorithms naturally catch the negativity and amplifier and introduce negative people to each other and all of this and so would this stuff is it means that the algorithms discovered there's more engagement possible Say by promoting Isis and promoting the Arab Spring and so Isis gets more mileage or promoting the Klu Klux Klan and black lives matter, you know in the big picture. It's not true that negativity is more powerful. But if you're doing this very rapid measurement of human impulses
  • This instead of accumulated human behavior, then it's the negativity that gets Amplified. So you tend to have elections that are more driven by Rancor and abuse and you tend to have outcomes that are kind of crazy. I hadn't considered that the algorithm would catch the negative engagement not recognized. Well, whether recognize of course knows that it's negative cuz it goes and looks for more of it. It has no opinion and if that really bad, you don't buy him that I had none that buying any of that when he said I think it's total bullshit. Why?
  • I don't believe there's an algorithm that does that solve. It's a very simple algorithm.
  • Of course, you know if you responding back and forth and it sees this, it's just going to find more people the surface in your feed that have you know, the similar opinions would people like you you know, or opposed to people like you I see that that's not that I think is the core of what it actually does is not much smarter than that, which is why the advertising sucks cuz that's the level of it's very basic. It's a very basic script to make this run. Yeah, and I know what you're saying. I know you just you could keep saying they're still not buying it. Yeah, you just not providing an argument as to why it's not happening. Well, you don't have to provide an argument why it's not happening silly. All right.
  • I'm sorry gays.
  • What kind of argument is that? It's like it's like saying yes, it's not raining in here right now. It's actually sunny and 90 will really prove it. But this is this is more subjective.
  • Just makes it worse. I can't don't have to provide an argument that it's not happening. Okay. Well, I think it is happening.
  • I really do and I and I can't go you have to provide the argument that it is happening. And the argument is just Lanier's the argument on it. And you know, you said you may have more experience than you can throw that in my face. You should have you just come home. I was doing I was about to do it. You wouldn't let you wouldn't let me, I'd beat you to it. Yeah, but I don't see that on Twitter. Ohmygod. Totally. Did you sign up for the people that you want to follow? They don't that's wrong your do you ever look at your feed just your regular feed? That's not true. That's the as manipulated. Are you kidding me? What do you mean my regular fees? If you go to Twitter just your regular home to it or not your mentions, but just home. Yeah, you're seeing things are being inserted there from people you do not follow and it's inserted from people favorited tweets that you do follow. This is do you even know how this works? I know how it works and I'm not seeing what you what do you say is which is a compound you have also.
  • I don't own any, I know you also do not engage like other people are engaging. You don't sweet back and forth with people. You don't want to get too. I just don't really get into a silly aren't you have no algorithmic engagement.
  • It's nice to think that you can be as so paranoid as to think that does not a problem. I'm paranoid but I know was linear is he saw paranoid his book? He's selling a book that has nothing to do with paranoia know. It's just I'm just saying that I'm not I know her manager here. Seriously. I say until the cows come home. I'm not seeing that that's Dvorak trick. There is no evidence up. Sure. That's your trick. You're not out. Anyway, funny cool that you would put it that way. I think that's an interesting sleight-of-hand to C Dvorak trick, but just the way I feel about it. Now. Let me give you an example. Here's what happened. I was I had I got the you saw the Tracey Ullman clip. Yes, of course, I have I have a copy of it here short, but she does this and I think we should play it but I played it and I said, I thought it was ironic that
  • Even though I don't apparently just ever say anything on Twitter. I said it was ironic that this was being promoted by Corden at least as where I got it. It was retweeted by James Corden. Yeah. Well, that's kind of like I'm English. Therefore I hang out with real English comedians something like that according according places. Yeah. Well there that's probably the real element but Gordon plays played in probably and I said, this is ironic cuz he's the kind of people that are sitting around doing this exact thing.
  • Yeah, or they kind of guess that he has and encourages and so some guy sweet blocked him after this by the way. Another thing another reason why it's way down those don't kick in for you. He says wow Rush right over your head. Oh because there's some bigger joke that we didn't get. No there's not but he thinks but he's Dimension a so he saw a bigger joke, geez.
  • And we can play the clip and I'll tell you what he thought the bigger joke was and why it really makes all the difference in the rest of this is just kind of a cover for the real joke for people who are so old that finding it impossible to have any fun at horse. Probably put it into context Tracey. Ullman is acting he's acting as if she is a leader of a group similar to a a, you know, you're sitting in a semi-circle and you're all sharing and talking about your issues on this one particular topic somebody would you like to just things
  • Playing online petition so much. Well, I mean before and you hours biking to the guardian about LGBT representation in the Harry Potter books, by the way. All right, baby, we've already talked to Larry. He's come to the right place will be young people in this room are ruining their lives by being overly the truth. I feel microaggressions the young people because it carries the country spots was the elderly agency sales, which is also be much what I'm talking about. You say the slippery slope one minute, you're carrying a reusable water bottle wine. And the next minute you are doing the water is racist racist an example. How did you guys get on with the whole up by that new especially due to change but can you have him towards the old people sitcom it's called friends and you were supposed to watch it. I mean Joy it. Well I try but I find it problematic. Why well the homophobia
  • The transfer via the fascism of the shaming I could handle be any more annoying. You called it for your 20s wondering about every aspect of everything. You have to pick your battles and just remember that it doesn't really matter because by the time you hit your thirties, most of you are going to be massively right-wing anyway have any of you started to sing that's a few cool people that deserve benefit know watch out for that one because that's how it starts.
  • And if I understand is open a bit much for some of you so let's take five and have a home number the whole problem verify the century-old pricing. Now the the second richest comedian in Show Business after Jerry Seinfeld. Oh, I think she's got much more money than Seinfeld you think I mean cuz the Simpsons Ride she she pretty much. Yeah, he had India for people that don't know Tracey Ullman when she did The Tracey Ullman Show. I think it was on network ABC. Maybe it was five. She talks all his Fox she had a deal that anyone who wanted to develop a skit or a bit or anyting if they took it to another level in other words since developed it and made it a show. She would get like two to 5% of it.
  • Yeah, and the Simpson give me give me 2% of the same since holy crap though. She ended up well, besides being a never-ending Bonanza. She and all the residuals. She I think she really racked it up. I think she went Way Beyond signs. Really? Oh that's possible. She's supposed to be now that I think about. Yeah because all different languages are so easy to do. Yeah. She should be in the in the billion dollar range. Yeah. I met her once which she was when she was still do that. She she went from comedian to single Iran was always left to meet her. She seems like father he's funny. He's incredibly kind but even then she and I was Nineteen and I think she was she must have been she's probably nine nineteen years older than I am.
  • She was very nice. One of my first TV shows. Well anyway back to this this bit where she says you're all going to become right-wingers when you're Thirty because you're going to think that people don't shouldn't be getting a stipend. That is the according to this guy. That's what I didn't get because that's what it's really all about and that wow, but I think that's taking it a bit far and yeah cuz it wasn't a criticism of these idiots. It was a criticism of people who do you know, all of a sudden don't think that the elderly should get a stipend and they're creeps. So I'm thinking went looked at C. The guy just it just you belong to blah blah now do you ever just a question of blocking since you know, since you successfully controlled you're out goes to to not engage you do you Tweet back to somebody first when you say like hash
  • Check blocked. Do you wait for actually blocking them to make sure they can see it as I do. I thought I do I always cuz you know, if you remove that person sweet then I don't know where mine goes bump with blogger hour I used to do with type in blocked and then blocks away, but they don't even know this. Why would I even do a hashtag block? So then I evolved into putting hashtag blocked and not blocking them.
  • Just like that's confusing. And yes, and then then when I block people now, I just block and I don't even care about feedback or let him know I don't care what there was ever happened don't even notice. Okay. So the second clip from Jared linear is about Trump and the L goes I have never known Trump, but I have met him a few times over a fairly long period over 30 years actually two different circumstances and I will say that while I never would have voted for him as president and I was he was
  • Somewhat untrustworthy in a bit of a settlement in a bit of a scammer. He never lost himself and became so strangely insecure and so weirdly irritable until he has an addiction in this case to Twitter and it's it's really damaged him. I mean, I need Trump in a way as the victim. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. His character has been really damaged by his Twitter addiction because of the reaction he gets at least we yeah, so, you know, what happens an addiction is the attic becomes hooked not just on the good part of the addiction experience, but on the whole cycle so Gambler is not just addicted to winning but to this whole process for they mostly lose and in the same way the Twitter out after the social media addict becomes addicted to this engagement, which is often unpleasant where they're engaged in these, you know, really abusive exchanges with other human beings and only once in a while is
  • You know, you'll you can watch like every once in a while, there will be this sweet and we're somebody likes them and that's when he gets his little we call it in the trade the dopamine hit that's where the grilled in Facebook friends when she gets a little dopamine hit and then he Dives in for more negativity and things then he gets it again and you can see the addiction playing out.
  • I'd like to be called Trump a victim of hatred. It's cuter Nation interesting. I mean the guys have musing at this level it to say in the trade. We call it this way. If you if you saw the whole interview in context then you know, cuz he kind of goes back to the history of how this develops and particularly Facebook which came from a different place than Twitter. I'll give you that but Facebook came from rating people's faces and being rated. It was a Zuckerberg trying to get a date. Yeah, but along the way and in their industry, whatever you said, they figured out that oh, wait a minute. We can give people a dopamine hit by by letting them have likes. I don't think they figured it. I think that it just happened naturally.
  • Yeah, yes, and I know it was not a block but once once it happened, they're like oh shit. This is working.
  • No, there's no doubt about it. They took advantage of it. That's for sure. Okay, can it deny that but
  • I'm not going to not blame. The social networks are all the problems that we have. I think it's a good it's good as any rational, but it does increase the speed at which people
  • Get to move and go crazy. Yeah without about it and all I'm saying is increase and I put here is a high likelihood that that is being tweaked and not not even purposely for for for evil just to keep people engaged. This is the word engagement. How do you keep them engaged by giving people what they what they want. What are they want the stuff? They're looking at all right, give him more of that and we want it now exactly it but with that
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  • It's faster. Okay so fast it's like curling and so far as the idiosyncrasies are concerned, but it's a faster-paced game. I mean, they really rocked while curling the the attraction of curling is hot chicks. Who Yale? Well, that's that's different I suppose anyway, so these guys are just killing is so it says tanoshi and most of the by the way, you're going to play this game. You don't know how to play you should watch the pros play it because most of the shots are before the whole and they slides into the whole ninety percent of the whole shots are from the sighting in as opposed to straight are mailing it to fill the other I prefer are mailing technique when I'm corn holding bet you are due now. So jasus that it was for about five minutes. She goes interesting. Yeah, they really backed them in bigger audience. There's like forty people in the sand watching these two guys.
  • This Championship. Okay. I'm glad you got that out of your system one getting corn-holed today. So I'm guessing that Richard was watching the same thing, but he says drunk donation during a marathon of cornhole odd. The last week's No didn't go well and so hear him to give what I can during the time of weeks can't support I like to ask for a douchebag D douching you got covered last week and buy another donors know that tribute to me my celebrated. I read the you know, I read wrong note. It has the wrong business mistake. I made that's me Bob's on me myself, my bad, man.
  • And you know what, I think about that you despise it. You really don't like people as my bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. Did you want you just say each shit if that's what you're saying when you say my bad doesn't even sounds like it. I know it's a way of taking responsibility without feeling sorry. It's the modern-day equivalent of a response and it's insincere. Yes. It's the modern-day equivalent of I apologize doesn't mean you're sorry.
  • My fellow producers really need to step it up at the show's been an excellent. Recently. We all benefit greatly from the wisdom and experience of John damn cuz we're older and the top notch No Agenda Community as a whole cuz they're great 7-Up 7-Up people. Can I please get a relationship Karma? So recently lost the second love of my life much like the first two people. Epidemic not dead just gone. Oh man, that's terrible. Yeah. Can I please get some that? We I have a little piece on that after this is over. Can I please get some seared? Junkie Carmen from my ex to become a healthy person and not kill herself. I know it's a lot to ask for but can I please get a tiny project car karma for my second Honda beat? I recently purchased the emergency the picture of this was letting me or just a little car isn't it for a little three-cylinder hot-looking sports car? I have one of those they're not allowed in this country or something. Hey girls
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  • I am going to put a copy of one of the letters from the from the Federation. Now, what is the Federation of planets is the Federation of planets the logo. It's the logo of the Star Trek Federation. The whole thing is that so it must be real Star Trek Federation.
  • Yeah, what do you think it I thought that was the way to the start know. There's not Star Wars Star Trek. You said Star Trek? I know but oh, okay. So this is not the real Federation of planets letterhead. It's just the Star Trek Federation of planets letterhead. No, this is the Star Trek Federation of planets is real. Oh, okay. At least we're on the same the same track good.
  • So I will send this very small letter has a small compact piece of paper cuz in the future they can it for eight and a half by 11. She was up too many trees. So all the papers shrunk. I'll send I'll send it. Next time one comes in. I don't have one in handy. If I find one just by accident on Route running the new it'll be in the newsletter. So stay tuned. Anyway, number two. I plan on getting my technician license next month just start studying a couple of days ago. What are the details behind the 7373 donation in relation to ham radio. Oh, okay. That won't be in your test. But it is good to know. He has a number of codes and that you use and you've heard of you know, Key West l q t h you probably heard those terms but then we have two numbers in particular $73 and $88.73 for hugs and kisses know seventy-three is greetings and 88th is for hugs and kisses.
  • Yeah, and so that was why I was commonly say seventy seventy-three. Yes, seventy-three o m which stream an old man seventy three zero n o m to you last Jesse LV hit me in the mouth. He continues with this note some time ago, but has never donated. Please call him a lot his brother Ethan.
  • Njnk, please Emmys a birthday list. He's on the birthday of the Sophia's. Yes. He is his fourth annual 33rd birthday. He's from the Federation of planets. We doesn't have letter had to prove it. Sure. I'm ready for $200 for upper decker. I haven't heard from him for awhile. I haven't heard from Sir upper decker for a man with a donation between diaper payments which are expensive. I need deal-making Karma to make it back before my Babies R Us card is do Babies R Us Babies R Us. It's been a while since you've been to one of them. But yes, I know Scott, I would never Babies R Us came after way later. Ya know Christina was born when Babies R Us was Hay Day.
  • We never went into a Babies R Us and I thought he was saying, you know, I haven't been able to baby. You know, they got something with there's no babies for sale. You got one that's already potted or we're going to babies you got they got nothing. It's a joke since just a misleading name for a store.
  • Steven Cheshire $200 from the UK. Hi John and Adam note for the show for this donation sent by an email 75, Bob man's email address. Let me go look.
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  • You using Outlook? Yeah. Well, it has some form of a database and then you can search in the database. But if you ever whenever you do a it's kind of hard to explain if you enter a search term and then you click in one of like last month or today and I click in it, then the search term changes to something else. It's must piece of shit horrible.
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  • Hi Jonathan, we just a long time listener from Bristol in the UK. We're we're trying to overdo another donation. We did join in a couple years back but never put a mention on the show. He listened to your show every week twice a week. And now I found it became or main news feed as we find it the only source of credible news nowadays. We enjoy after listening to your deconstruction of events how the same stories are being reported mate as we report days in advance of some of the ones you'll hear over here in the UK. It makes us laugh but sometimes scream and cry, especially the stories about Trump.
  • They hate Trump over there. We were over in California in April May this year on a holiday and I have to say what a beautiful place the parts Room San Francisco. If only we had remembered our poop map Valero over there. We never met anyone who had a half-decent word to say about Trump not one. So all we could take from that is that your news networks are certainly doing a good job on that front. Keep feeding. The slaves were your excellent working hours of entertainment you provide please find Their donation of $265 for this week's show came in this 200 in which I want to give the producer credit to my lovely wife Sharon. We have to remember to do that as it's her birthday today. Do we have that? No. Oh no. I don't think we do. I don't see how we could that we okay. So tell me this is Steve wants to wish is
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  • You do I got a couple of quickies some comebacks for my OTG phone. I got a lonely like Gigi, then you want to give us a little history of the podcast things. I sure like Father. First of all read this I think this is Mike Kito Charlie 7 Tango, whiskey whiskey glad you're liking the new hearing aids. Yes. I am like in the new hearing aids. I won't bore you with any information today, but I have a another appointment this week. And so I have an update maybe my commander had the ones like you were talking about and loved that. He could focus the listening One Direction it helped in meetings true. Anyway, it was just listening to Thursday showing the segment on the Zen TV experiment. I finally figured something out in the office. I work in the office. I work in my iPhone doesn't get a connection to the outside world. I work for a d
  • D agency, so this is either a coincidence or by Design anyway for the first couple of weeks. I'm newish to the job. I found myself checking my phone and getting upset that there was nothing happening with it. No email notifications know social update cetera. Now, I know why I was programmed to look at my phone when I was bored and I was upset when I didn't get my entertainment. I've just started to leave my phone in my car during the work and I feel much better. I offer forget. It's there till after I get home. Thanks for filling me. You know, what was causing me so much angst you guys are invaluable. There you go. Yeah, that's true. And I'm going to be I put an order in for bike and went on pre-order in the UK and many of the European Union states the Nokia 810-8110.
  • For G. Oh, yeah. So it's it's it's nicer for a 4G phone. Yes. Yes. There's only one other 4G feature phone which means is not a smartphone and that is the powers of the AP. It would be fine for what day was this? This is a remember looking now, this got me entry and they're like cuz I have one of the old no kids that are with the Chrome back to write back. So this 4G is this is 8110. It's the banana phone as made famous in The Matrix the one with the slide that pops down. So the remade that and they did it with 4G which is going to be necessary because 3G as being turned off everywhere to make room for 5 G and Achilles all how DNA will be ripped to shreds but boy will have great conductivity. It runs the chi o s k AI which is a fork of Android and it has no apps it has what it has.
  • Like bookmarklets on the screen. So it has the Opera browser. In fact get a yellow one. Yellow or word charcoal. I think $79 I think is what it's going to go for.
  • And you have a browser you got your text messaging. They've done the text messaging right? So it looks like a chat. I have I can't find one for less than $150. Well, it shouldn't be on sale at all yet. There's only on sale in the UK.
  • No cake and Banana Phone 4G 4GB 512mb Ram 2.2. Megapixel smart. It says smart phone. It's not only night. They don't know what they're talkin about know, there's an eight hundred seventy nine pounds, but I think 150 it's not available in the US yet. It shouldn't be so July 4th I think is when they start selling it in the rest of the world, but I think that I could have legs, you know, especially the floor show with legs. It just so funny.
  • You're so funny. Anyway, so when I have that phone.
  • Which will also look very weird to people who who are familiar with seeing the Black Mirror. Here are some of the comebacks. Are you ready? Oh, okay. You want to do the surprise voice each time so I can K. I'll do the surprise, but I'll try to Gary. Yeah, it makes it up a bit. Here we go.
  • Hey Adam. Hey, hey. Hey, what is that?
  • Now you see you knew my name. So that doesn't work. You have to be a complete strangers. I do is strange. Yeah, you're serving in the restaurant that I think it I think in person knows you could do this. But okay, we'll be I'll be I'll be a waiter.
  • Yes, I had. My name is Bill. Holy moly. What is that? Oh, that's the same phone Jimi Hendrix used when he was with the Beatles.
  • Who's Jimi Hendrix? Okay. We'll try another one. Yeah, I'll be in another way a different waiter.
  • Hi, I'm here to take your order. Oh my God. What is that? Oh, that's the free phone that came with my Airstream.
  • What's in the Airstream one more? How many more you got here? I got three more. Okay, I'll be another way. I'll just be somebody's walking on the street. You get the phone there. Do you do hey man. What's that there this my friend still works with the old MTV?
  • They're not that good I guess and the final one is my dog ate my iPhone and died. Every time I see a smartphone I think it poured busy kind of like that were kind of like that one. Yeah, you see if you could even deliver it. I can't I can't I'll stumble. I'm busy. About. It was interesting to see just in the in the Off. The Grid OTG Cisco has announced its going to buy July systems start up that uses Wi-Fi to gather insights about visitor behavior and physical spaces like malls stadiums and airports. That's just goes already partner would you lie system so they're scaling this up.
  • And 45 million if you could deal that was that's that's what their value. But you know that that's you know with Cisco. They're kind of instrumental in the infrastructure of the internet. What are they doing?
  • Yeah me worried about Huawei. Yeah, are you worried about while I know they are talking about a year right now? I'm not.
  • I don't care.
  • Huawei Huawei. Yes. Oh, I have a cup. I have a couple of inches around. Let me save these I'll save for later in the show if they come up what what else I do have the the Purdue Pharma thing which is talking about the addiction you brought addiction up. We have one of our business about the lawsuit. Yeah, but it's got some other stuff in they did an interview on one of the networks that they would CBS. Yeah. What's CBS and they interview one of the sales people for Purdue this I didn't realize that this Oxycontin thing. They're actually blaming this one company for the holy Christ. Somebody's got to go down this this was she worked for him between 2001 and 2007 or something. I mean it was this was going on so long. This has been really going these guys must have made billions softly this it's the family right at one family who owns or billions. I think it was just a big charade.
  • Has an oxycontin salesperson farmer bottom line sell as much as you can much as you can to attend making money to making money just by another means claiming the drugs slow-release formula did not cause the buzz or Euphoria. The company said the misstatements ended in 2001, but am in a widening addiction epidemic never claims the company taught her to tell doctors that some patients might only appear to be addicted in training. She was given a term for this pseudo addiction this concept of pseudo Addiction come with studies backing it up. We had enough studies. We actually we we did not have any studies. That's the thing that was kind of disturbing. We didn't have studies to present to the doctors. You know, that's how I know. I was not
  • A 2015 study published in current addiction reports found no empirical evidence to support pseudoaddiction as a diagnosis in a statement. The CBS News Purdue said it is confident that Oxycontin sales have been consistent with the information contained in the FDA approved label with the word pseudoaddiction doesn't appear on oxy Cotton's label and a spokesperson for the FDA said the labeling is not intended as a discussion of pseudoaddiction reject any notion that their science fine suit of addiction Oklahoma attorney general Mike Hunter is one of two dozen AG's suing Purdue and other opioid manufacturers many of the lawsuits mentioned pseudoaddiction. Do you think this is an epidemic that begins with Purdue Pharma and oxycontin. That's the start of it all quit in 2013. She hopes the drugmaker.
  • I'm going to sum it up and say this I think that was one of the if not the worst career decisions in my life. So the really going with the pseudo addiction defense, huh? Yeah, I'll also shoot an overdose not really dead. You just pseudo dead. Wow that I mean, I've been following this and they seem to be the only one. I mean really they manufacture it. It's the distribution. That is the problem. You know, you've got the pill Miller they've got nothing to do with that, you know, you know, they probably do the drug dealers if someone's got to go down from time to time. You got to take one down. It's going to be these guys. Yeah, so screw them they are they are they're Liars. They're horrible horrible human beings cuz they know they know exactly what they were doing pseudo addiction addiction and little are so we got news about Anthony Bourdain.
  • And I love how this was all done by some local French some local french guy. Who did the autopsy. I guess I just from The New York Times police at the time ruled his death a suicide by hanging from an investigator standpoint. The only question left was whether he had any substances in his body, which was a question. Of course, there were none save for the trace of a non-narcotic medicine in a therapeutic dose.
  • Christian rock Queen me the local prosecutor in charge of the investigation said in a text message the New York Times, we'll great investigative work there guys. What the hell till they tell us what it was. What was it again? I forgot they didn't tell us they no. No, they didn't tell us they non-narcotic medicine in a therapeutic dose. Which means it was someone text. Yes, of course it was Chantix, but we're not going to know the New York Times is oh, I got a text message. We're good to go. Who cares it's fine. It's not it's just non-narcotic.
  • Yeah, well, what do you expect you? Really? Expect? No. No, of course. I didn't really expect that but still holy moly.
  • Holy moly, holy Millar Newgate. We should use that all the time. Holy moly. Yeah, I used it a minute. Let me see what I have. No right now. We're going to stop you really tell us about podcasting.
  • We got a request from one of our part of podcasting that is poorly told because by the history books is started in 2004, but it actually started in 2000 and I went to New York. I had to go beat somebody up over some money. I was owed and which is a true story another story for another time and Dave Winer was in New York at the time. I think he was just in a for some conference and I knew Dave Winer from Radio user land and the blogging stuff and RSS and I had written this this blog posts. You can still find an archive. Org which is the the final yard. I think it is. So instead of the last charge. So the last mile the last yard and I had this concept they my head which was at the time we only had modems that were they were cable modems that they were always on. It wasn't Broadband it was you know, it was it was more broadband and dialup, but it really wasn't all that great.
  • The cable infrastructure really sucked but you know, you didn't have to dial in so it was always on and I had this idea that in order to create a good multimedia experience, which we didn't have it wasn't click and play it was click wait for ten minutes and then all of a sudden they would play it was video of might take a little, you know, less long with an MP3 file hard for people to imagine but that's the world we were in I said, why not since the computer is always on it's always connected to the internet. Why not create a little thing a little program that runs in the background and when there's when the new the new video or piece of content is available downloads without telling the user but when it has it on its hard drive, it popped up a message and says, hey I've got something new for you here and then you click on it a place immediately which would give you a great A great experience like oh I clicked on something. It said it was new and it played immediately which was it would have been sorcery and magic at the time.
  • And I presented this to win her who scoffs that me and and didn't kick me out but it's like whatever, you know, I think you thought it was, you know, em boy shut up and but then I took his software His Radio user Land Rover scripting application and I created what I was talking about and he looked at it. He said I Now understand what you're saying. You have to promise me one thing. So what's that? You never ever touch my software again? Okay, I promise that and that's when he came up with the way to implement this which was the enclosure tag in the RSS feed format and we were actually using this for three years before podcasting came to be but it wasn't till the iPod happened in my head. It clicked like wait a minute we can use this in conjunction with the iPod because I looked at the iPod and didn't say jukebox is everyone was saying I said radio receiver all we need to do.
  • Is have a way for people to subscribe and we had that the RSS mechanism was subscribed and I built a little script and popped it over to the to the iPod and that was the birth of broadcasting, but I did that pretty well.
  • And that's and that's the way it's been a little and that's and that's how it happened. Yes. That's how so this guy is the guy who invented podcast Angus. Hey, I have a question.
  • Regarding the the FBI, you know this investigation the Hillary email investigation. So I kind of sent as a throwaway joke about they're not, you know not having the Emoji used to provide context around the struck and Page text messages, and I don't think you were joking. Well, I met my joke was it was it was intended as a joke initially my saying how can you have two lovers with seven or eight thousand text messages not as rang without a single or eggplant Emoji. It doesn't exist in today's relationships. And so, you know, I tried to crowdsource that people weren't very helpful because you can look through the messages. You can get the Emoji codes which are in Unicode and you can bring them and then you can figure out what they were. It's pretty much universally what I was able to find Smileys or frownies. I didn't see any poop emoji. I started to see any heart emojis.
  • No words Affirmative words, if I love you, baby, you know, I'm thinking of you none of this when these text messages came out then it's kind of hard to tell you know, exactly how they came out to release them or why but the narrative immediately was their lovers.
  • And in this investigation, we now also find FBI lawyer number one and FBI lawyer number five. We're also in a romantic relationship which by the way, the guy the co-intel just had to resign because they have a 0 top no fraternizing policy, but at the FBI, it's okay. So you can just stay there in both case. I don't know if we've seen the text messages from lawyer one and lawyer V, but it really changes the context from baby. I'm going to stop him. We didn't even say baby. Don't worry. I'm going to stop and he'll never be president which you know between lovers is a very different context. Then I'm going to stop it's text. You know, you have no context maybe it was written in complete hate. The guy is you know, is is polishing up is the AR-15. I don't know but the way but the way it was presented I find highly suspicious moreover now that we have two other FBI agents who are also in a romantic relationship.
  • It's not even matters it matters because it provides very specific context between these two messages and from the beginning from the moment. It came out. It was FBI lovebirds, but you know, there's I'm not buying that I think that that was brought in to soften down what was being discussed. And in fact, if you read them without the context of lovebirds its conspiratorial
  • No one is really questioning that.
  • Well, I have to assume I met you I think you're I'm not going to condemn the argument because you might be totally right and you have to assume and I could be totally wrong when I say this that it was well known in the agency that these two were shy or they right but I wanted I defied anywhere love. I defy anyone except you. I defy anyone to show me text messages with the person they love even your kid. That doesn't have a heart emoji or kiss Emoji or hearts in the eyes emoji more than just smiley face frowny face.
  • That is not it is now a part of our language. I was just open challenge to anybody out there who does texting with their lover? Yes. And also if anyone can find any of the expected emojis in those text conversations, let me know. I mean, I've looked through as much as I can without finding anything else you a lot of Smileys in brownies. That's all I see.
  • All right. Well, it could be a Canadian thousand messages not a single text single one. Well, we don't know that they could have been judiciously removed or there's a possibility of yeah, I know I agree with that. It doesn't make sense.
  • All right now cuz they're old married couple that would be different. I have a note, but I want to read it after you do your Coco run?
  • Coco rundown you had you want to resend you want to talk about Coco the ape the gorilla walking Josh on gorilla. Yes. Well, I don't really have any clips about that. I want to talk about krautheimer. Well, let me do something on the gorilla then. Okay Koko the gorilla when you sign up.
  • Language actually so Coco died. And what is your impression of Coco just from what you know from the media and this has been going on for decades. It's Coco story. I remember this fantastic. Gorilla. They had it's a very emotional the connective emotional girl. That would that's just human. It's a human can't talk, but it can sign and it's like a banana and wanted to screw other gorillas. I guess. I don't know a mixed bag, but it always has like Robin Williams with cocoa and Morley Safer with cocoa and they all come back with a chair and their ice and Coco's Locos. Glad to meet me or something. It's always it was it was Mushy Mushy. That's my you must must you must. Well, she must
  • Jen's zookeeper sent me a note.
  • We have every kind of producer in our midst Adam and John I saw the death of Koko. The gorilla was mentioned in the newsletter. I thought I'd pass along some details about Coco in case you discuss her death on the show The believe me, we would not have discussed it word needs for not for your email. I work as a zookeeper for several years and met many people who cared for Cocoa. Here we go. And this was kind of well-known but there's now even a lawsuit about it, which is kind of cool. The first is Coco had a fetish for women's nipples and asked to see them through sign language which isn't so bad since she's an animal of course. What is disturbing is that the head of Coco's research Francine Patterson demanded that employees show their breasts to cocoa or their employment would be terminated.
  • And this that and there is a lawsuit now, or maybe it's been resolved. But there was a lawsuit of a hostile work environment. And yes Austin. Yes, of course, it's hostile II go has to do with the children's book Koko's kitten a Charming story about how Coco formed a friendship with a kitten.
  • From what I've heard from other Keepers Coco would regularly torture kill and dismember kittens. If I remember correctly. She like pulling their tails off where they were still alive then demand Replacements. This is actually typical behavior for Apes. They can be extremely nasty and most will slowly torture and kill any wild animals that fall into their enclosures then males will often use the body to masturbate but Patterson again indulge Coco by getting her more kittens the general consensus from the other Keepers was a Patterson was completely nuts and had an extremely strange attachment to Cocoa worse than even current-day dog owners. Well as zookeepers were very hard to keep the animals we care for happy. I have never known any would go to these extremes.
  • I believe it. I believe I have a big PR bunch of crap about the kitten. I just had to keep replacing it with new kittens as you rip them to shreds. Yeah, it's just gusting we got to look into the game or I can nobody in the mainstream media covers it this way. Well, they don't have zookeeper Jen on their side.
  • Probably we can get I'm sure we can get confirmation with that whole story.
  • I know the nipples part of it is very commonly known in the area.
  • Well while we're on animals in this is one of the been holding for Neil, you know, we have these.
  • Donation statements going back and forth about the artificial insemination the breeding of horse and cattle and which whole hand goes in which it goes. So Neil Neil sent me a note and and this of course doesn't think about it having spent a significant amount of time in Kentucky, which is Horse Country. I can clarify a note from last Sunday's donations segment horse and cow breeding both involve the rear end of the mail.
  • But repeated like vibrator is inserted into the gentleman to speed up the extraction process and prevent the use of human hands for simulation. I'm all for the torpedo. The product is collected and sold and little straws that are frozen sold anywhere from $15 to a couple thousand for prize-winning studs. So that's where that's where the rear comes from. So I guess everyone was right. We just forgot to stipulate male or female cattle.
  • That's the life-saving to again, I guess so we got to get some of they can give us a we have to I'll tell you what one of us should interview. Some people that are really know that you know, all the details on both sides of this equation now, I think you should do that right away. I'm sure you are.
  • We have a I got some racist. I just got some pure races stuff before you go to races. Let's play if I want to get this one out of the way. We got a gas tax in California that was implemented just unilaterally by the state so they could just recently implemented a new one. But this is the one in Paris a few months back, but it wouldn't you know, our gas prices a buck above everybody in the whole country despite the fact that we've actually produce oil already expensive but it's gotten very expensive here like three dollars more dollars a gallon 3900 so expensive.
  • So let's just here a little background on to I got to follow up clip which is kind of like to me says but are all these Democrats, you know Democrats run the state and they're all they ball for the tax tax tax tax tax. So split across the state that have moved farther and farther away from their place of work in order to be able to get a house they can afford and then the legislature slap sandwiches cash tax John public and candidate for governor says he had no problem getting a million signatures usually around right the governor's budget this year spent five billion dollars from the gas tax with the total state budget shows at sixteen billion dollar Surplus. If they've got such a big Surplus, why are they collecting? This gas tax planning projects are big long-term Investments and they need it consistent funding stream. There's a boom
  • Best budget cycle and A legislature that's been true for many many years and we cannot afford to return to that it will threaten the ability to move forward on these Transportation projects Governor. Jerry Brown has vowed to fight to repeal around has fifteen million dollars and a political bank account and he could spend it and it campaign against the repeal We Wrong get this war chest. He got it from the same contributors and donors and contractors. Of course. He's benefiting with his train the know where his white elephant in the Central Valley to the gas tax that it's already paying for thousands of projects proposition will eliminate more than five thousand projects that are already Transportation Transportation projects that are already in the pipeline USC LA Times poll last month found that fifty 1% of California's law repeal 38% want to keep the gas tax and gas doesn't understand.
  • Chowder pot or jets proposition what happened to climate change what happened to climate change its passing for sure. But let's climate change didn't get into this conversation question. Let's play gas in this next clip we get to hear about three of The Fabulous gas tax projects some Bay Area projects that are already being funded by that gas tax money include over 250 dozens of AC transit buses and better Street signage in Novato live in Sacramento at the state capitol Melissa explore in gasoline taxes. So Novato a ritzy town is the fancy town in Marin County big Democrat on claim. They have their own damn money. They're getting a they're getting signs and then bars in New
  • Please cars. They kept their own budgets. They can they don't need gas tax money to buy upgrades. This is a classic scam and this goes on everywhere in the country. Well, we don't have that here not like that yet. We're still read. All right to races bits. Okay, Dimension a dimension be what I'll do. Dementia is David bossie.
  • And now I see boss was he I think he was involved in the Trump campaign, wasn't he? I never heard of him. Hold on a second bossie. I'm pretty sure he was involved with the Trump campaign. Let me just see if there's there's no Wiki. Yes, here it is.
  • Here's the Wikipedia David bossie. Born November one. 1965 David. Norman boss is a racist American political activists. Well, I got the right guy then I guess that's a nice we keep pedia entry. Yeah. Holy shit. Anyway. I biased know he's on with Joel Payne who was black and that's important in context of this little hanging black. No bubbling boss. He's white light. Okay and pain is black Michael Hayden posted a picture of Auschwitz that one little Michael Hayden green me or not. And when you're out of your cotton-picking mind, don't get much you on the line. Let me call you guys. Just love that. How dumb do you have to be?
  • To say to a black man. You're out of your cotton-picking mind. I mean how stupid are you then? I mean, I'm flabbergasted by the time I got some relatives out of your mind. You're out of your mind. What's going on in America? This is what we're about now, dude you blew you blew it and you really did so that's kind of the blatant racism. I mean and it's it's really tone-deaf colorblind. I mean no legs. No arms, you're an idiot. And I guess he deserves that Wikipedia entry but much more subtle and interesting Lee cheered on by the crowd was Seth Rogen. It was on Colbert and it was and it's two minutes, but I think it's well worth listening to because this is was really going on in America and you're about to listen to it.
  • Yeah, he was invited by Mitt Romney to speak at some conference, which I think it was for Alzheimer's or for mental health and Rogan has an Alzheimer's charity. So he went and he spoken of course. He met a lot of Republicans there and he talks specifically about wanting counter and I'll I'll tell you right away, it's Paul Ryan who is now he's on his way out but he's he's a speaker still. Is he the speaker of the house? He's the boy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah now he's the big boss man. He's if he's in charge of the Republican party with what exactly he's just the speaker of the house is in charge you the Republican Congressional in Horsepower. Okay. So so there's two parts. There's a very abnormal hatred but also the racism is just
  • The funneling I was put into a weird a bit of a pickle at one point two young very young. Like very very young white teenage man think how they were if I noticed not like they were white. So, yeah, we're the white and what is this about explain to me what this is about just this.
  • Why is that relevant?
  • Is it is he trying to it's all virtue signaling but is he trying to say I was at this Republican thing and they were all white people and so they were so white they were probably really racist. He's thinking along the lines that only a black man can make jokes about black people and so he's saying this is okay for me to say cuz I'm white.
  • So I can make jokes about white people. I mean, it's just kind of a what's the joke, it's not there's no joke while he turns it on his observations to come. He's preconditioning the audience for his material and making it clear to everyone that he's white. I don't know why it's obviously is but he's but he's self-consciously white. He's he's woke think how white they were if I noticed that why they were so yeah, we're the and so they and they have to take a picture with me there maybe like sixteen Seventeen and Dan sounds very nice fans clearly fans of mine. And then they said our dad wants to meet you and I turned around and it won't pull Ryan was walking towards me. Okay.
  • Walking towards me. Okay how that go. Well, I didn't I my whole body puckered as where I can stop ads. I kind of and I didn't know what to do and he came over just grab my hat and I'm just I'm saying she's had I don't know what to do. And he said can I have a picture with you? And I look over and his kids are standing right there expectantly clearly fans of mine, and I said no way man.
  • And I understand because it would be horrible for his political career for his acting career of that got out. If a so I totally agree. He should not do it. But wow, the response from the audience is fantastic and I could stop and I said furthermore. I see what you're doing to the country at this moment. And I tell you no longer have what iota of the power that you currently have an I don't believe that for a second did he said that bull crap? Right? I think it's bull crap Factory. Stop stop. In fact, I'll bet you well. I mean the most logical thing to do in that situation unless he has absolutely zero Grace and he's a total asshole which doesn't you know, it's possible but would you do in this situation explain why you don't want the picture taken and it would be accepted know he's always there Sanders left of restaurant. You heard what the woman had
  • Okay, I'm out of here are still standing right there and I feel very conflicted about this after moment did that it's not their fault. But at the same time they should probably learn that they like a movie or song the person who probably doesn't like there. That much for Signal much and reruns in that instance. So I felt very honestly, I don't know. I don't know how I feel that I'm glad I didn't take a picture with Paul Ryan my hand feels I touched him so I don't know how I feel about that. But and I I don't know his kids see monthly and very Caucasian man that that was you might take away from the things. That was the big payoff is you get to do a Caucasian bit at the end.
  • So what was he what was what was the white Nissan the way if he had his act together, he would have said I won't take a picture with you cuz it would hurt my career to be honest about that. But you take a picture of me with your kids. Yeah. I just thought the whole white thing was very odd. I didn't understand any of the guys in a hole for being very for any of who that whole story and why is he telling this story in the first place a job at virtue signaling with this not the kind of thing that you brag about the fact that you're rude you were invited as he was relating truth to power.
  • Truth the power don't want my picture taken. What kind of Truth is that? No, then he said I hate what you do. I can't wait till you're gone. That's just the power to the power.
  • It's opinion to power if anything's I found the whole thing very that's very disturbing. Yeah, just like what are you trying to communicate?
  • Yeah, it's really bordering on sick. Yeah, it is.
  • Well, that's a good I'll give you a borderline clip of the day for that.
  • Actually, I hadn't even inspected that but I'll take it similar to reminds me of that. I just have a key just like a classic teasers ABC teasing. There's a year olds not flaking Gutierrez. This is they're going to change this some they're going to start discussing something with the seven awful as they teach it with this little gem and more on the immigration tomorrow. Okay, Jeff like hates Trump is quitting is that is doesn't really a republican into the air as we know him. He's always bitching and moaning. He hates trucks. Why don't they try to put some balance characters on here? Maybe someone has some logical explanation for what's going on just as there's just bringing to haters on but they're one's a different ones to Republican that's balance.
  • Why do you kidding do they say you're fooling anybody? Yes, they are fooling lots of people for sure.
  • And then I'll end with that before RC block here speaking of fooling people. Have you seen the Netflix documentary sour grapes?
  • No, not yet. You know what? It's about. No, it's about this this kid, I guess the Asian kid turns. I think it was from Indonesia. Who was this must have been 2014-15. I think he was living it up in the wine scene and he was buying it auction really expensive. It's when it's a burgundy. I forget which one it is, but it was buying all kinds of wine and you know, he was successfully beating up. The prices were Rising that was a bit early in 2015. He was beating up the prices and then he turned around he sold his entire Wine Cellar for thirty-five million dollars for a number of bottles went to Bill Koch who then discovered that they were fake and it turns out this kid via created tens of thousands of a kid, dude.
  • This dude, however, whenever any of the wine business knows this guy, okay. Well, that's what I that's what the documentaries about. Oh, yeah. We're pretty familiar with the story is a fake. You said you phonied up wines you as a counterfeiter. Yeah, but it was really interesting it I figured you would have for sure see it. No. No, I know the story though. So do you think you might have some of his fake wine know I don't collect I sort of one he's got those are extremely high and auction-style wines that show up on auction blocks and they go for thousands of dollars. I don't wouldn't even be happening. I've always I've been thinking a lot of cheap wines are counterfeit from Bordeaux is that I've always reeling this really yeah. There's been going on forever. I want thinking maybe there's a business you you got a nice printers.
  • I'm not going to make counterfeit wine. Hey, I'm just trying to get out of this podcast in Gig then we do a few people to think for show 10:45.
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  • Yeah, and it really it really came after the second half of show. I forgot to get into this a little bit cuz I take some pretty seriously when he says stuff even though it sounds wacky. I mean remember he was telling everybody waste told a lot of things but I've been wiretap they were spying on me. And I mean how long it everyone laughs about that.
  • I mean months long time. Yes month. It turns out it was true. You know, they were spying on him. I'm sorry using confidential informants and we're wiretap. But even even that notion seemed completely impossible. So when it comes out with they Source space for and I went back. I just I just wanted to listen to a couple of the cliffs where he's talking about the space force, but really came from Tina, you know, as I mentioned earlier, she's pretty convinced now at this point, we're all looking around squirrel left school, right? No sudden the aliens are going to show up and and I think she has a a reasonable level of belief that could happen and we're seeing more and more stories. It's cyclical. It goes starts with the disclosure project and You Tube is filled with stuff. But this space force thing. I also got a note from one of our producers was kind of spurred me on to look at this boy.
  • I'm hearing folks getting rattled up about space force remarks. I did want to share a couple of things space force base in 2001. I enlisted in the US Air Force during morning physical training routines. The training instructors. The t is the Army equivalent of a drill instructor would yell air power at which point the entire Squadron would reply space Power AF
  • f as Aerospace expeditionary forces a component of the air and space expeditionary Force deployment scope. This wasn't a one-time Cadence. This was something we would get repeated countless numbers of Times Daily. It was ingrained from the start for all Airmen at least those of us in the 320th and 322nd training squadrons at the time. He sure he just wasn't an extra and the Starship Troopers movie know because we've been reading about this we've been we've been reading in the National Defense authorization act all this stuff for space. We were talking about space wars. Oh God eight years ago when we had Chinese satellites bumping other side lights out of the way. So just it's just revisit a couple of these space force quotes from Trump. This is this was from Marcus Pace. The United States is going to do Colonel Glenn proud. We are finally going to lead again.
  • You see what's happening. You see the Rockets going up left and right. You haven't seen that for a long time. Very soon. We're going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars of my opponent one that I can tell you you would need to be thinking about it wouldn't be thinking of my new National strategy for space recognizes. That space is a war-fighting domain just like the land air and sea.
  • We may even have a space for Philip. Another one space or the Air Force was the space for the Army the Navy, you know, I was thinking the other day cuz we're doing a tremendous amount of work in space. I said maybe we need a new force will go with the space force and I was not really serious. And then I said what a great idea maybe we'll have to do that I could happen. So I think this is that was a rally and then here he's with the cadets similar method. I do National strategy for space recognizes. That space is a war-fighting domain.
  • Just like the land air and sea we may even have a space force develop another one space for the Air Force. Well the space of course we have the Army the Navy when we went to the moon Acres, so, you know, then he says to a certain point, you know, we're much further ahead than it when things even though we're way behind is typical Trump doublespeak no idea what he's talking about. But his head I think there's something going on now for sure when he says you see Rockets going up left and right now I don't I see Elon Musk. What are the Rockets are going a blessing? Right? Yeah. There's always the reconnaissance agency the shooting up and that was five, you know to throw another side lights, but you know there really hasn't been a lot of space activity NASA is trunk as far as I know as a lot of the some of the some of the the budget has gone to commercial companies like space that we really doing anything in space have we done anything significant?
  • Well, you know, I mean, you know and different things left and right at could be I don't have no idea. Maybe this rock is being shot, but we don't know about so for conspiracy-minded like myself, you know, one of the main questions whenever you start talking about space is and I and I'm very clear that I there is no evidence that satisfies me that we actually landed on the moon and it's too bad that NASA lost the original recordings of the landing on the moon would have helped maybe but those are gone.
  • Why haven't we gone back to the moon since what was the last 76 was that the last the last moon landing? That was 7272 maybe yeah 7270. We do something to make Skylab but 72 the last time we landed on the moon and I found an interview with the expert on all things space from the from from Earth. And that is of course Neil deGrasse Tyson.
  • And he was asked a question. I think this is from Joe Rogan. He was asked the question. Why haven't we been back to space since 1972? No, Seventy-Six. You're right. It was 76. Yeah, no soft Landing examining from 22nd of August 69 numerous on men unmanned. Okay. No seventy-two then unmanned Landings app, okay.
  • With the question remains just I'm not expecting you to know the absolute answer but it's Meg's questioning. Why have we not returned to the Moon?
  • What do you what do I think if I was going to speculate on if you were Neil deGrasse Tyson, you're going to give a definitive an all-gay if I was Neil deGrasse Tyson. I say the moon turns out to be an artificial satellite. That's Hollow which is why there's no deep holes in it from from strikes from asteroids and we're worried about we've barely got people inside controlling it and so we're we've got done we don't want to mess that up.
  • How do you just I just locking me now? Do you have any idea yourself John C Dvorak as a technologist why we would not have been to the Moon. It seems like we could do more dangerous is too dangerous. That's the reason too expensive. It's centered V Rockets. Those things are like we don't even make that rocket anymore.
  • well
  • Neil deGrasse Tyson's answer is much more modern than you would expect when we went to the moon everyone assumed because of the way it was marketed. There was the the the the the profiles and like magazine of each of the astronauts and you saw their families and the president said we should do it and and it was this Grand Mission from NASA a civilian space agency and and the World's Fair in New York 1964 was all about inventing a future. So we were living room ass. All right.
  • What we were not reminding ourselves is that the only reason why we went to the movies because we were at war with Russia, which is Soviet Union. That is the only reason at all now you're buying this.
  • But we weren't at war with Russia. We're in a space race wasn't War by any means if you don't carry that motivation with you and you're only thinking that this is simply the next technological thing to do that when we learned that going to the Moon therefore. We have no reason to continue and we stop you then you cry foul. And you say well wait a minute. How about the future? How about Mars and how about the rest of that? The rest of that was not ever in the plan unless Mars had planned unless Russia had planned to do it. And so it was not a natural flow of what our technology would have done because it didn't flow out of our economic creativity came out of our urge to not die. And so when you have that scenario, of course, we didn't go past the moon after 1972.
  • We would no longer competing with Russia to do that. In fact, most of what we did in space was reactive to Russia. We were not the first in space form into space Russia spent the dog. We weren't the first humans in space Russia's Russians were Russians. He didn't put the first black person in space. It was a Cuban Acumen Cosmonaut the achievements in space what we did we got to the Moon first and then we said we win and so we have repainted that error in our memory as we are the pioneers and we did it because we explore
  • No, we did it because that's a nice after the fact window dressing you can put on that achievement but we did it because we were at War there was no once you understand that it allows you to understand why we stopped. Oh, I understand. That's right there that he just put down. Why don't you understand? It was about Russia. So it's about Russia who was checking. It doesn't even make any sense. Let me just get let's just go through the history of it. Why would you stop in nineteen-seventy-two? Because apparently we were still at War we stated war was rushing to the wolf L, which is during the Georgia Dome. 988. Yeah eighty-eight. Yeah. So where's know what happening all those years in between?
  • Cuz it's bull crap John but it's not that we can do it. You know the more I look at it. And by the way, the Air Force has had a space command for a long time, but now and I'm just going to say it makes nothing but stands now that we once again or war with Russia. I guess Rush is doing stuff that we have to have our space force. But in this case, it's not going to be a part of anything. It's going to be equal but separate so it will be as equal as the the Air Force is the Navy.
  • But completely Saturdays.
  • The Russians in nineteen-seventy-two after going to the moon and number of times in the Russians and Americans together discovered that these aliens which Gina thinks is going to attack any minute. We're out to get us and we joined forces with the Russians to set up various phony baloney operation that look like it was against each other but it was all targeting the Russians pants blowing up some of the biggest nuclear weapons in the atmosphere up in the ionosphere. They just close their portals. And that's the reason we stopped going to the mood cuz we don't need to in fact it was dangerous cuz they're already made basis up their pussy. Yes, and it goes It goes beyond dances. Yes, it goes beyond basis and I think I can back it up to some degree first. I think that we didn't stop.
  • Do you remember that kid who got arrested in the next resided for breaking into a Department of Defense computer? And he published stuff that he had found that Gary McKinnon?
  • He hacked into US space command commuters thrown in jail forever. Yes, and he had non-terrestrial officers. They found documents about sleep to Fleet transfers and here comes and I want our producers to be on the lookout for solar Warden.
  • The theory goes and it goes quite deep and I'm following This Thread cuz it's pretty interesting to me is you know, like seventies mid-seventies. We for the general public we said you were stopping but that's actually where we were breaking through and we are now we have a space force. We've had a space force as a part of solo Norton you're saying perhaps that the secret defense or these NSA if some of these phony baloney missions, they have this big payload sitting on top of these rockets and they can't say what it is cuz it's a spy satellite over to actually
  • Potentially another mission to the Moon that they're no no, no, nice Way Beyond the moon know so our our solar system is protected by solar Warden and you know, we allow certain alien races to go through and certain not and that's what the solar Warden is about. Let me just put it to you this way. Where what is our budget this year for the military seven hundred billion dollars. It seems like a lot. Where is it going? Do you see seven hundred billion dollars worth of shit know I know where it's going and finally hit me once you take it out of NASA. Once you understand this is all Department of Defence where there's already three trillion dollars that can't be accounted for where is that money going? It's not it's not just being burned up by the Rand Corporation a bunch of guys smoking cigars broken white pussies know.
  • It's going into space.
  • And this really follows in not for today, but I'm going to bring more about elderly or makes it makes I've done it again. I'm going to let you go on this it makes some sense. When you think about the fact that we're always freaked out about China and their War capabilities and when you look at the budgets, it's like why don't we freaked out about anybody? We have a budget a military budget that is the combined more more than the combined budget of all militaries of all Nations trying to Russia everybody put together UK you everybody ours is bigger. Yes combined. Yeah and everyone what the hell me spending this stuff, but everyone's underpaid they don't have the much real the planes don't work the F has to strike final he's bitching doesn't work, you know if they're complaining a lot. That's a lot of money. It just be importing poppy seeds from from Afghanistan.
  • Yeah, that would kind of defeat the purpose of making money on drug trade. I'm sure there's a lot of it in there and maybe a lot of that funds other things will actually maybe if you think about if I'm going to go with your argument we cuz this budget is so enormous that the CIA for example, it's supposed to be getting a lot of money. They're not getting enough money. So they have to go over sell puppies are under the EU to keep their to keep themselves going then we're thank you. This is very good. You just completed my thinking that's why I was a little disappointed when the Federation of planets guy one of our donors. I thought he actually was sending it from some or could I think there are there's documented evidence of Intergalactic organizations.
  • an agreement
  • and there's a lot of good YouTube videos, but it might lie but here's what I'm predicting. I think that this Trump spaceforce thing. He is going to start letting us in on on the joke. He's going to start leaking it's going to be in his words going to talk about little things and then maybe we'll see some more videos will have a little more serious or so boom will have a little more serious reports of UFO sightings. I think we're being I really do think it's time that we're being prepared. If there ever was a president who could introduce the world to the true that would be this I will be this guy and it would work because half the people would go as far as yeah, and the other half would really think he's lost his marbles. So it would remain a question for all the time and yet the truth will be out. I'm hopeful space force.
  • But this may be the reason the intelligence agencies are so Burke's.
  • Her cure, or they're beside themselves or they don't know if it's a good time and some you know, the I don't know I would recommend. I'm not a buyer of any of this but I like it and I think people should go out and definitely go refill. Of course those book. Yeah the day after Roswell. Yes, that's a book that you can't even discuss any of this until you read that book. Well, I've read it.
  • And and we have a couple of producers in in Utah who have worked on. It facilities their stories were very believable very believable. But you know, it's like this was true. Somebody be saying something cuz you can't keep a secret that well people are saying lots of things, you know, it's not as though and it was trying to keep the secret. I mean you go on YouTube and you can you can spend it months and the guy that seemed that was one thing or another and
  • And is that just belies the oh, you can't keep a secret. Nobody would if this was true though, you know you hear about it and hearing about it and when it comes to science, which a lot of people like the point to it doesn't make a lot of scientific sense that we're the only ball here that has people on it for being so that doesn't mean I don't I don't bring that into the conversation know but so I'm on the lookout for subtle Clues. I'm looking for more in your project blue beam was always something that we've talked about and that may be completely all of us maybe a big hoax. I don't know but the elaborate hoax very elaborate and I'm just following the money all this money goes to defense department and it's got to be going somewhere and yeah, you're right. We see big Rockets go up.
  • Repairs stuff like that, but I think when when when we truly start to find out a bit about it and and Trump may just be working. Everybody wants to release the information. Like I'm going to tell everybody. I hope he gets that I hope he gets to tell something he must he must know now,
  • A lot of the president's weren't read in according to course. So right but Jeff was I thought JFK was red in.
  • I don't know. I don't remember JFK being ran. I apparently Reagan was ready and it started with Reagan Reagan started. Literally the Star Wars project. I mean go look at the history of it a lot of money Star Wars project. Yes. He did. I mean if you're going to go there but but Eisenhower was red in because he demanded to see the area 51 and everything else. Yes. So Eisenhower was writing that means Nixon was next was definitely read in because Nixon's the one is supposedly drove a Jackie Gleason, then you can look this and oh, yeah. Yeah we talked about this. Yeah, Joe Jackie Gleason to the alien storage facility to show them a bunch of dead aliens and which apparently freak Gleason out. And then after that is sketchy weather than anyone was red in or not.
  • So anyway price is very speculative my eyes open and I think that we are going to know we're good. I listen to this guy and everything. He says has some kernel of Truth in somewhere even if distorted it's his own truth. But this one he's just it's it's out there too much. Something's happening. Something's popping. I just can feel it sitting and they were bang out. Oh no. No. Hey remember when we had a clip of Steve pechenick saying that North Korea was just the beginning of the trifecta of agreements and Bashar al-assad would also want to talk with Trump and have him at the table and maybe even do something with North Korea because of types of stuff they have in the earth and they could exchange with each other. So I've also been you know, keeping track of Bashar al-assad who does quite a few interviews usually with the British media.
  • But he's always pretty willing to sit down and talk to people and here he is about Trump and well, you tell me what your impression is of what he's actually saying with this one of the main please United States Macy's meeting in Singapore with Kim. We're on tour with Will and never meet with trunk remote key it look mostly he doesn't understand what's going on. We'll never talk to trunk era where you if it will be necessary mid trunk directly opens. I do think it's necessary for you to talk to, we can leave that discussing or talking or negotiating with your adversary and
  • Any other one of course is productive. But in this case, it's always since we had the first thing quotation was the United States in 1974.
  • We never achieved anything in any subject the problem with the American president that they are hostages do they log in the mainstream media to the huge corporations Financial. The oil hard woman takes it around so they can tell you what table you want to hear but they will do the opposite end it to the case and it's getting worse and worse and the Trump is a very Stark example. So talking in this customer the American now.
  • For no reason for without receiving anything just with the with the phone. We're not happy to talk with them. I can just because they are America discuss with anyone who could be productive and we don't believe that the American politics will be different in the foreseeable future. So it's just they can waste of time now.
  • I think he's fishing.
  • I think it's fishing for a meeting.
  • By being caught by being well, it's kind of thing. American Poetry. I don't want to meet. Yeah. He's like, I don't want to meet an American Presidents always, you know it all going to be the same. They're all all you saying. They're driven by the mainstream media. That's the one thing probably not by lobbyists Lobby. It's fine lobbyists. Okay, another thing different to being contrary and there's what I mean cuz they're all the same. Nothing's going to change and Trump. That's that's a challenge to Trump cuz as far as strong as concerned, he's different. Yes. That's what I'm thinking and maybe who knows I'm just keeping these things are just watching them watching him.
  • All right. Well, I have a sister Time by discount. I think it was talking with just do an update on the Taliban because we got to keep things, you know people listen to The Show for a kind of a generalized to look at things and at the militant to checkpoint at a town in bodies Providence, then they Ambush reinforcements as they arrived.
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  • Do you have do you have a Krauthammer thing? I want you to talk about Krauthammer before we go. Yeah, this is from Dr. Krauthammer was a very interesting guy because he was unlike George Will and the other so-called conservative columnists. He never really fully turned on Trump, but he was a neocon and somebody pointed out these signs that declaration or whatever it is. The was he part of that of the project for a New American Century, but he supposedly may or may not have signed that document but he was already in that camp and he admits it. I don't know why it was so stunned by this but let's listen to I got two clips ones in our cab. You don't want to play obviously let's play so we get a feeling for what this guy's coming from. He is a classic neocon, which is a democrat in sheep's clothing because he got because he got Democrat Party changed just enough pushed people into the Republican party and the neocons are all actually EX libris.
  • All of them and they tend to hate Trump because they're liberals. They're basically liberals. That's play Krauthammer on Neil cons. Is there a label you could have put on yourself in nineteen-eighty. Oh, yes at that point. I was what you might have called a Henry Jackson Democrat. I was a cold war liberal. I was a believer in the Great Society, but I was also a believer in a tough approach to the Soviet Union, which means I had pretty much of a home and the Democratic party at the time you had pet Moynihan your head and we Jackson the great senator from Washington State and later on that element of the democratic party shrunk to nothingness and as it did I was without a home I remain generally without a political home, but you could obviously fairly call me and he'll conservative now because we talked a lot about the conservative neo-conservative. What's the difference between being a neoconservative and conservative?
  • There there several this thing shows one has to do with personal history.
  • They'll be conservatives generally are people who started out as liberals and as the the dean of neoconservatism Crystal one said
  • was mugged by reality and they evolved in time into conservatism. So that's number one if you ask any of the conservative, how did you vote in? 1968 Seminole year he say Lyndon Johnson if you ask a conservative, I'm sorry 1964 he would say living in Johnson a conservative would say Goldwater. So that's one distinction. The second is that because of that neoconservatives carry over some of the idealism if you like and objectives of liberalism, which means they they want it printed in in foreign affairs. There is I mean, there is a a pratik by conservatives of Neil concern is which is that Neil concerns are to Utopia wilsonian. If you like we want to revolutionize and what we want to democratize the world and the answer is yes.
  • What distinguishes us from liberals is that we don't rely on the institutions that liberals rely on the UN treaties and all that will Sonia stuff. We believe in power American power in particular. So what distinguishes us from from other conservatives more traditional conservatives, they are more likely to be realist. They're not interested in the governance of other countries if it's a democracy or not. They're just interested in how the government tax in relation to the right state. They're interested in National interest. They're not interested in constructing democracies abroad this program in a very different light for me.
  • And why is this I did not know and I'm looking at it now that he indeed was a signatory on the project for a new American. I don't have any but I hear these asked about that and he says he doesn't remember signing and he would have signed it. He doesn't have deny that well, I'm going to spend to remember ever actually signing right? Well, I'm looking at a a PDF and I signed it today sign this sign and here's the here's the part that that I've always taken exception to in this document Americans were looking and this is from their written document that he signed off on Americans were looking forward to a piece divided after 45 years of Cold War spending soapy not concluded that Americans must experience the crisis a new Pearl Harbor attack.
  • Yeah, that's right. That's what they were calling for that we needed to experience that kind of outdoor 11. Yeah and it yes and and this was not long before nine-eleven that this that this document came out who incidents I think not but the crowd hammered you didn't seem that was crowded. I was always Krauthammer's position. That's why he would I didn't know I'd managed to be you know to talk to the concerned about is but he's actually really a strong like all the neocons very strong-willed liberals. They believe in one in the Democracy everywhere One World Government. He never says that but one world government is exactly what he what he wanted because he was one of those types now, I want to bring in the second clip which is his now this was recorded in 2005 and I want to play this because this is the neo-liberal expressing like he says there were utopian there to kind of a, you know, Utopia less the other warm
  • Let me see one other thing. I was a Democrat and I switched over to the Republican party. I'm now unaffiliated after being an independent for a while, but I did it for a different reason this the Democratic party gave up. Like he said they gave up on this Jacksonian Henry Jackson type of you know, kind of a warmongering liberals is the way I put it in this is it would be Lyndon Johnson Vietnam all of a sudden it makes total sense for that time that you would feel that way sure and they well and I was anti-war and I was pro-labor and I was Pro middle class. I was all the things that the
  • The Democrat Party also gave up on to become elitist and the Republican party was a pro labor or anything like that. There's no doubt about that and they weren't anti-war by any means but they have slowly evolved toward that because everybody quit the other party cuz they sold out they were co-opted and so but it was for different reasons that they moved over and if neocons machine is kind of a Enemy Within because they're not Republicans by any stretch of the imagination and because of their utopianism I want to play this is what he was felt like in 2005. This is classic neocon sinking and how wrong they were and I don't believe that Krauthammer ever came to grips with what he's about to say the current president will determine I think he ranks high now, he's talking about Obama, you know president.
  • But ultimately, it's I mean, I've always had a sense that you can argue all you want you write all you want but in the end history will decide who is right and who was wrong you can you can suggest in you argument that the war in Iraq was right or Afghanistan was right, but will learn in ten years or so if Iraq was a success I think it will be and assuming that the Bush Doctrine of changing the Middle East changing of the culture of the area as an answer the nine-eleven and as a way to prevent a new 911, I think it's correct. But again, it's a theory it's being tested on the ground as we speak. And I think if it is if it works out in Iraq and Lebanon places like that. I think it will be ranked very high perhaps as high as Reagan's know how that work out man.
  • Yeah, hi. There you go. I didn't realize that. You know what he was very he came across very differently in the past couple of years that I've followed him. Yeah. I liked him. I like would have confronted with the reality that he just expressed and 2005. Yeah, we have to wait 10 years. Well, we've waited for me and didn't work out that work out like the way you guys. Hope did it.
  • Right. So I mean, I always enjoy this is material because he was very thoughtful and he did present argument wouldn't hear any place else. It was those it was valuable for the thought process. But yeah, none real, Tina's going to be crushed.
  • Was she a big fan? She likes him very much. He likes Kraut Brit Hume.
  • Can we do like a Brit Hume and that's about it? That's about it. She should like to No, Agenda show and does she love you. She loves the No Agenda show you kidding me. She loves to know what what
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